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<blockquote data-quote="NC Liz 2" data-source="post: 1101377" data-attributes="member: 21522"><p>Lucky,</p><p>Now permit me to address the cow first and explain why I said: " use of nose flaps can cause more harm then good "</p><p></p><p>Without the use of a nose flap a cow's milk will start to decline in both quantity and quality around 7 months of being breed, forcing her calf to seek nourishment elsewhere. And she will start kicking her calf off. And many will totally wean her calf all by herself before she calves with her next calf.</p><p>When she has weaned her calf, her calf is no longer allowed to stimulating her utter and teats, her milk will dry up and the openings in her teats will scab over.</p><p>Under normal circumstances when the cow is allowed to wean her calf it takes between 5 to 10 days for her milk to dry up and the teats to scab over.</p><p>Do you agree?</p><p></p><p>It is my contention that it is far more stressful for a momma cow, knowing her calf is by her side acting like he/she is starving and there is nothing she can do about it.</p><p>Plus the fact her calf will be a constant both all day long while she should be grazing, forcing her to lie down to stop being assaulted by her own calf.</p><p> </p><p>In addition, by using a nose flap you are about doubling the chances that the cow can/will develop Mastitis which can be financially devastating.</p><p>IMO the younger the calf you use the nose flap on, the higher the chances of the cow contracting Mastitis because the younger the calf the less the cow will want to kick him/her off and be biologically ready for her milk to dry up and teats to scab over .</p><p>Do you agree? </p><p></p><p>Now can you explain the procedure you used when you used nose flaps?</p><p>What did you do to/with the calf when the nose flap was on and what did you do with the calf after it was removed?</p><p>What were their weight? ( or should that be : "wait" )</p><p>Liz</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NC Liz 2, post: 1101377, member: 21522"] Lucky, Now permit me to address the cow first and explain why I said: “ use of nose flaps can cause more harm then good “ Without the use of a nose flap a cow's milk will start to decline in both quantity and quality around 7 months of being breed, forcing her calf to seek nourishment elsewhere. And she will start kicking her calf off. And many will totally wean her calf all by herself before she calves with her next calf. When she has weaned her calf, her calf is no longer allowed to stimulating her utter and teats, her milk will dry up and the openings in her teats will scab over. Under normal circumstances when the cow is allowed to wean her calf it takes between 5 to 10 days for her milk to dry up and the teats to scab over. Do you agree? It is my contention that it is far more stressful for a momma cow, knowing her calf is by her side acting like he/she is starving and there is nothing she can do about it. Plus the fact her calf will be a constant both all day long while she should be grazing, forcing her to lie down to stop being assaulted by her own calf. In addition, by using a nose flap you are about doubling the chances that the cow can/will develop Mastitis which can be financially devastating. IMO the younger the calf you use the nose flap on, the higher the chances of the cow contracting Mastitis because the younger the calf the less the cow will want to kick him/her off and be biologically ready for her milk to dry up and teats to scab over . Do you agree? Now can you explain the procedure you used when you used nose flaps? What did you do to/with the calf when the nose flap was on and what did you do with the calf after it was removed? What were their weight? ( or should that be : "wait" ) Liz [/QUOTE]
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