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<blockquote data-quote="Farminlund" data-source="post: 68251" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>I have posted before on twin issues, I would like to see if anyone could answer my questions following the description of my latest twin adventure (I had only found twins dead in the past & thought if I had been there during birth, the outcome would be different):</p><p></p><p>• Mature cow off by herself in the morning (not sure of her due date as caught by my clean-up bull).</p><p>• Mid morning - tail occasionally held high, searching for that perfect place.</p><p>• Noon - had water bag hanging down.</p><p>• Around 1PM - I was able to detect a correctly positioned hoof thru the "veil/placenta" – seems like things are going ok, albeit a little slow.</p><p>• Around 2:30 - the calf is delivered & upon seeing that the calf is completely encased in the veil, I rush to the calf & tear open the "placenta" before the rear hoofs have cleared the ma. Much fluid flows out & at that time it is obvious that the calf is dead.</p><p>• Remove & weigh the calf – bull @ 76 lbs – average size for my angus.</p><p>• Return after disposing of calf & doing various chores around 4 PM.</p><p>• Notice she is acting like she is going to calf again & notice another water bag is hanging down!</p><p>• Go to get the facility ready (think I'll pull this one out) & return less than ½ hr later.</p><p>• Around 4:30 - calf half out, veil broken & head exposed, I pull as ma gets up & free the dead calf from the mother (much smaller calf this time).</p><p></p><p>What caused both twins to die? Should I have detected something earlier & taken corrective action? What would other folks have done in my situation? What do I do the next time? I would like to quote Jeanne "I HATE TWINS".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Farminlund, post: 68251, member: 1132"] I have posted before on twin issues, I would like to see if anyone could answer my questions following the description of my latest twin adventure (I had only found twins dead in the past & thought if I had been there during birth, the outcome would be different): • Mature cow off by herself in the morning (not sure of her due date as caught by my clean-up bull). • Mid morning - tail occasionally held high, searching for that perfect place. • Noon - had water bag hanging down. • Around 1PM - I was able to detect a correctly positioned hoof thru the “veil/placenta” – seems like things are going ok, albeit a little slow. • Around 2:30 - the calf is delivered & upon seeing that the calf is completely encased in the veil, I rush to the calf & tear open the “placenta” before the rear hoofs have cleared the ma. Much fluid flows out & at that time it is obvious that the calf is dead. • Remove & weigh the calf – bull @ 76 lbs – average size for my angus. • Return after disposing of calf & doing various chores around 4 PM. • Notice she is acting like she is going to calf again & notice another water bag is hanging down! • Go to get the facility ready (think I'll pull this one out) & return less than ½ hr later. • Around 4:30 - calf half out, veil broken & head exposed, I pull as ma gets up & free the dead calf from the mother (much smaller calf this time). What caused both twins to die? Should I have detected something earlier & taken corrective action? What would other folks have done in my situation? What do I do the next time? I would like to quote Jeanne "I HATE TWINS". [/QUOTE]
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