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<blockquote data-quote="plumber_greg" data-source="post: 1172037" data-attributes="member: 9115"><p>I read the first 5 pages of this, and the last 5 pages. Here are a plumber's thoughts.</p><p>CG8, part of the problem is you have no idea of a big rancher. You are not one of them.</p><p>Right now I am a small producer. I have around 135-140 mature cows, which is about 40 to 50 more than I want. I bought a load from an Ok. ranch for tax porpoises which is why I have so many. Also, I wanted to increase my fall calving herd.</p><p>I rent part of my pasture to Conley Angus, a well known but SMALL purebred angus herd. (Check select sires, Abs, and others, look for the BC label). He has approximately 300 head of momma cows. </p><p>Across the road from my place ( I'm only using first names), is Barry. He feeds about 400 of his own calves out in his feedyard. Buys enough to always have 1500 on hand. My customer, I know this for a fact.</p><p>Three miles east is Lance, he runs around 300 head of momma cows, backgrounds another 2,000. He is a good friend, I know the numbers.</p><p>One mile north of my house is George. Don't know the exact amount of cows, but Vic, my and his vet told me that he helped sync part of his spring herd, and did 175 head.</p><p>Going on north is ML, my customer, runs around 4,000 head of calves to background.</p><p>North of ML is Jim, not my customer, but he has to have 500 head of cows on rented pasture. I work for many of his landlords.</p><p>Southeast is Charles, another 30 year customer. Don't know how many mommas he runs, but he gets vet students from the University of Missouri to help him calve. He told me last Jan. that he had 640 head of heifers to calve.</p><p>I could go on and on, but so far I am within 15 miles of my house, not even out of my county. Barley out of my township. 250 cows makes you a small producer. Most of these guys own thousands of acres.</p><p>Don't make yourself small by telling most of us how we are hobby farmers. You may be a big ranch in your area, but not in mine. We don't even call any one of these people ranchers. They are farmers.</p><p>I know each and everyone of my cows, don't even need flash cards. If I can do 100 and know each, surley with just 250 you could do the same.</p><p>I bet your neighbors are tired of hearing how big an operater you are. We have had them around here. We just laugh when they're not around. gs</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="plumber_greg, post: 1172037, member: 9115"] I read the first 5 pages of this, and the last 5 pages. Here are a plumber's thoughts. CG8, part of the problem is you have no idea of a big rancher. You are not one of them. Right now I am a small producer. I have around 135-140 mature cows, which is about 40 to 50 more than I want. I bought a load from an Ok. ranch for tax porpoises which is why I have so many. Also, I wanted to increase my fall calving herd. I rent part of my pasture to Conley Angus, a well known but SMALL purebred angus herd. (Check select sires, Abs, and others, look for the BC label). He has approximately 300 head of momma cows. Across the road from my place ( I'm only using first names), is Barry. He feeds about 400 of his own calves out in his feedyard. Buys enough to always have 1500 on hand. My customer, I know this for a fact. Three miles east is Lance, he runs around 300 head of momma cows, backgrounds another 2,000. He is a good friend, I know the numbers. One mile north of my house is George. Don't know the exact amount of cows, but Vic, my and his vet told me that he helped sync part of his spring herd, and did 175 head. Going on north is ML, my customer, runs around 4,000 head of calves to background. North of ML is Jim, not my customer, but he has to have 500 head of cows on rented pasture. I work for many of his landlords. Southeast is Charles, another 30 year customer. Don't know how many mommas he runs, but he gets vet students from the University of Missouri to help him calve. He told me last Jan. that he had 640 head of heifers to calve. I could go on and on, but so far I am within 15 miles of my house, not even out of my county. Barley out of my township. 250 cows makes you a small producer. Most of these guys own thousands of acres. Don't make yourself small by telling most of us how we are hobby farmers. You may be a big ranch in your area, but not in mine. We don't even call any one of these people ranchers. They are farmers. I know each and everyone of my cows, don't even need flash cards. If I can do 100 and know each, surley with just 250 you could do the same. I bet your neighbors are tired of hearing how big an operater you are. We have had them around here. We just laugh when they're not around. gs [/QUOTE]
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