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<blockquote data-quote="DOC HARRIS" data-source="post: 689188" data-attributes="member: 1683"><p>Cade-</p><p></p><p>This is a very interesting and, potentially, educational thread for you this morning! As I read the posts concerning your situation, I tried to organize, in my mind, the dilemmas with which you were confronted. Let's see if these fit into some of your thinking processes:</p><p></p><p>a- Prior to his being dropped, you had HIGH hopes for his Genetic Quality because of his "high-priced' Registered dam, and because he was sired by what you considered a 'reasonably' good Angus bull! Am I right so far?</p><p>b- Upon "first blush" when viewing him as a new-born calf, he didn't come up to your anticipations which were designed for the previous nine months! There is an "old saying" that states "Anticipation Is Greater Than The Realization!" </p><p>c- If he was "a kind of average Angus calf" when he was dropped, perhaps he was a result of his sire and dam having a low BW EPD, ( somewhere around 0.0, or less?) If that is the case, and his BW was 60# or less, he was born rather easily (BONUS!), but certainly did not LOOK like a three month bull calf! So far - so good.</p><p>d- You state that "he is doing fine and growing okay". The important evidence which should be considered at this time is - is he growing satisfactorily enough, given the above factors, and have you given adequate thought regarding his Phenotype, Genotype, and Functional Traits, and relating them to his CURRENT age and Frame score.</p><p></p><p>IF you have done all of the Homework required in making the decision you have stated, and still feel that your original judgement in steering the calf is correct - fine! I don't have a problem with your decision-making protocols so long as you know <strong><em>WHY</em></strong> you make the determination to ship him this fall. But - using single-trait selection as a criterion for culling is as undesirable a protocol as is using single-trait selection for Seedstock purchasing!.</p><p></p><p>Frankie will probably be surprised to hear that I agree with her almost 100%. There are many reasons for making decisions regarding culling and retaining animals, as this thread demonstrates, however the critical bottom line is this: it is IMPORTANT that you know</p><p>WHY you make the decision, and that you are satisfied with it for all of the right reasons!</p><p></p><p>DOC HARRIS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DOC HARRIS, post: 689188, member: 1683"] Cade- This is a very interesting and, potentially, educational thread for you this morning! As I read the posts concerning your situation, I tried to organize, in my mind, the dilemmas with which you were confronted. Let's see if these fit into some of your thinking processes: a- Prior to his being dropped, you had HIGH hopes for his Genetic Quality because of his "high-priced' Registered dam, and because he was sired by what you considered a 'reasonably' good Angus bull! Am I right so far? b- Upon "first blush" when viewing him as a new-born calf, he didn't come up to your anticipations which were designed for the previous nine months! There is an "old saying" that states "Anticipation Is Greater Than The Realization!" c- If he was "a kind of average Angus calf" when he was dropped, perhaps he was a result of his sire and dam having a low BW EPD, ( somewhere around 0.0, or less?) If that is the case, and his BW was 60# or less, he was born rather easily (BONUS!), but certainly did not LOOK like a three month bull calf! So far - so good. d- You state that "he is doing fine and growing okay". The important evidence which should be considered at this time is - is he growing satisfactorily enough, given the above factors, and have you given adequate thought regarding his Phenotype, Genotype, and Functional Traits, and relating them to his CURRENT age and Frame score. IF you have done all of the Homework required in making the decision you have stated, and still feel that your original judgement in steering the calf is correct - fine! I don't have a problem with your decision-making protocols so long as you know [b][i]WHY[/i][/b] you make the determination to ship him this fall. But - using single-trait selection as a criterion for culling is as undesirable a protocol as is using single-trait selection for Seedstock purchasing!. Frankie will probably be surprised to hear that I agree with her almost 100%. There are many reasons for making decisions regarding culling and retaining animals, as this thread demonstrates, however the critical bottom line is this: it is IMPORTANT that you know WHY you make the decision, and that you are satisfied with it for all of the right reasons! DOC HARRIS [/QUOTE]
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