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Thinking of "Unregistering" A Few--Advice?
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<blockquote data-quote="wbvs58" data-source="post: 1400762" data-attributes="member: 16453"><p>Well no wonder you don't know anything about managing genetic conditions SPH, you are a Hereford breeder and have not had 1st hand experience with dealing with recessive genetic conditions. I think the Angus societies around the world have done a very good job in dealing with a string of genetic conditions. Along with the researchers they have been quick to establish a practical DNA test for each condition that comes along to allow the industry to identify any carriers that from their pedigree suggest that they may have a %age chance of being a carrier. There is no blanket DNA test to screen an animal for genetic conditions, you have to ask for each test individually and is unnecessary if the pedigree is clear of carriers. It must be very expensive for you to test all your bulls individually for every condition known to mankind before you sell them. I can understand getting parent verification done and maybe the Zoetis 50K to help with accuracy of EBV's but to my knowledge there is no blanket test for genetic conditions. The hysteria you show for genetic conditions is typical of someone that knows little about it. None of us like the prospect of these genetic conditions but it is a fact of life and I am sure there will be more in the future, my herd of registered Angus would be every bit as clean as your herd of Herefords but none of us know what is around the corner and with the experience and knowledge I have of dealing with the ones that have occurred to date in the Angus breed I would not be overly concerned if another cropped up tomorrow, I can deal with it.</p><p></p><p>As far as your $4000 cow goes if it was an Angus you would be foolish not to have looked her up on the AA website where it would clearly show whether she was a carrier or had a %age chance of being a carrier so if you went ahead with the purchase it would be knowing the fact. If you made a purchase of a cow and the next day it was announced that a new genetic condition was discovered and that cow ended up testing +ve then you the purchaser would have to bare the loss as the deal was done before the condition was known. This has occurred to many of us and we have managed it without any great loss financially or to our reputation and have still ended with a clean herd at the end of the day. Bulls are a different kettle of fish and I know a couple of people that purchased bulls in the $50,000 bracket a couple of weeks before DD was announced and they came up DDC. Bulls need to come out of the system immediately so these bulls were relegated to purely commercial use.</p><p></p><p>Scaremongering with the hysteria that the likes of you create is not helpfull to the industry. Working through a situation with knowledge and modern science is what gets the results.</p><p></p><p>Ken</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wbvs58, post: 1400762, member: 16453"] Well no wonder you don't know anything about managing genetic conditions SPH, you are a Hereford breeder and have not had 1st hand experience with dealing with recessive genetic conditions. I think the Angus societies around the world have done a very good job in dealing with a string of genetic conditions. Along with the researchers they have been quick to establish a practical DNA test for each condition that comes along to allow the industry to identify any carriers that from their pedigree suggest that they may have a %age chance of being a carrier. There is no blanket DNA test to screen an animal for genetic conditions, you have to ask for each test individually and is unnecessary if the pedigree is clear of carriers. It must be very expensive for you to test all your bulls individually for every condition known to mankind before you sell them. I can understand getting parent verification done and maybe the Zoetis 50K to help with accuracy of EBV's but to my knowledge there is no blanket test for genetic conditions. The hysteria you show for genetic conditions is typical of someone that knows little about it. None of us like the prospect of these genetic conditions but it is a fact of life and I am sure there will be more in the future, my herd of registered Angus would be every bit as clean as your herd of Herefords but none of us know what is around the corner and with the experience and knowledge I have of dealing with the ones that have occurred to date in the Angus breed I would not be overly concerned if another cropped up tomorrow, I can deal with it. As far as your $4000 cow goes if it was an Angus you would be foolish not to have looked her up on the AA website where it would clearly show whether she was a carrier or had a %age chance of being a carrier so if you went ahead with the purchase it would be knowing the fact. If you made a purchase of a cow and the next day it was announced that a new genetic condition was discovered and that cow ended up testing +ve then you the purchaser would have to bare the loss as the deal was done before the condition was known. This has occurred to many of us and we have managed it without any great loss financially or to our reputation and have still ended with a clean herd at the end of the day. Bulls are a different kettle of fish and I know a couple of people that purchased bulls in the $50,000 bracket a couple of weeks before DD was announced and they came up DDC. Bulls need to come out of the system immediately so these bulls were relegated to purely commercial use. Scaremongering with the hysteria that the likes of you create is not helpfull to the industry. Working through a situation with knowledge and modern science is what gets the results. Ken [/QUOTE]
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