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<blockquote data-quote="Dave" data-source="post: 1554511" data-attributes="member: 498"><p>I did live off the grid in 1978. We had a hand pump on the back porch, kerosene lamps, wood cook stove, wood heat, and out house that was 100 feet too far away in the winter and 100 too close in the summer. The power simply wasn't available there. Still isn't. Where we are now we certainly don't live off the grid but the electric bill is only about $70 a month. We do have propane heat but we also have a wood stove. We have only used about 100 gallons of propane in 3 months and this is a cold weather climate here. The wood stove is our main source of heat. The propane is set low in case we forget or are gone and the fire goes out. Cutting firewood is no big problem even at 67 because I am retired. Unlike when I was working where today was the day to cut wood so I went at it like killing snakes, now I have plenty of time to get it done. If it takes one week or two weeks it doesn't matter because what else do I have to do? The garden and putting up our food is enjoyable. It is amazing how much of that can get done in a 4 hour day. Less than half spent at a day job. We could easily raise all our food but neither the wife or I wants to milk a cow twice a day. I have done that before and the wife did it for a lot of years. So we do buy some of our food. But not a lot. We only go to town about twice a week. Sunday to go to church and once mid week to do the shopping and take care of any town business. This was a change for me because for about 37 years the grocery store was only a mile away. If I ran out of something it was no big deal to run to the store. It is a change the other way for my wife. For 14 years she had a ranch that was a 2 hour drive to the nearest store. She went to town once a month. In the last 6 months we have gone out to eat a grand total of 4 times. It is just not part of the lifestyle we have chosen. It is pretty easy to switch to being a minimalist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave, post: 1554511, member: 498"] I did live off the grid in 1978. We had a hand pump on the back porch, kerosene lamps, wood cook stove, wood heat, and out house that was 100 feet too far away in the winter and 100 too close in the summer. The power simply wasn't available there. Still isn't. Where we are now we certainly don't live off the grid but the electric bill is only about $70 a month. We do have propane heat but we also have a wood stove. We have only used about 100 gallons of propane in 3 months and this is a cold weather climate here. The wood stove is our main source of heat. The propane is set low in case we forget or are gone and the fire goes out. Cutting firewood is no big problem even at 67 because I am retired. Unlike when I was working where today was the day to cut wood so I went at it like killing snakes, now I have plenty of time to get it done. If it takes one week or two weeks it doesn't matter because what else do I have to do? The garden and putting up our food is enjoyable. It is amazing how much of that can get done in a 4 hour day. Less than half spent at a day job. We could easily raise all our food but neither the wife or I wants to milk a cow twice a day. I have done that before and the wife did it for a lot of years. So we do buy some of our food. But not a lot. We only go to town about twice a week. Sunday to go to church and once mid week to do the shopping and take care of any town business. This was a change for me because for about 37 years the grocery store was only a mile away. If I ran out of something it was no big deal to run to the store. It is a change the other way for my wife. For 14 years she had a ranch that was a 2 hour drive to the nearest store. She went to town once a month. In the last 6 months we have gone out to eat a grand total of 4 times. It is just not part of the lifestyle we have chosen. It is pretty easy to switch to being a minimalist. [/QUOTE]
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