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<blockquote data-quote="IH_Fan" data-source="post: 801721" data-attributes="member: 15145"><p>Hi Johndeerefarmer - you're right: the CaseIH 85 series (1985 to 1990) was a re-skinned IH 84 series (1977 to 1984) but with a Case engine and not the European IH engine of the true IH 84 series. Here's the thing too: the IH 84 series was a only a mildly updated IH 74 series (1973 to 1977). </p><p></p><p>But there was an updated version of the CaseIH 85 series, and that was the 95 series (1991 to 1994). From that they went to the CaseIH 4200 series (1994 to 1997). Then to the C series (1998-1999) which used a Perkins engine (don't know why, but it could have emission reasons). These were all decendants of the original IH 74 series first released in 1973. After 1999 and the merger with NH to form CNH under Fiat, the small tractors were some sort of Fiat design/model that I'm not familiar with, as I recall.</p><p></p><p>So there you have it: They certainly got a lot of mileage out of the original IH 74 series design, for good or bad reasons..... It's too bad your 585 was problematic. We had the IH 674 and many of our neighbors had the 574, all with the IH 1850 loader (popular loader where I grew up for some reason). They were the best tractors of the "big 4" of that size that was in our area (JD, IH, Ford and White). Other brands were not popular as dealerships were too far away. The 74 series was a very good tractor in it's day. The only thing that went on them were the clutches, no doubt because of the loaders that were on them!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IH_Fan, post: 801721, member: 15145"] Hi Johndeerefarmer - you're right: the CaseIH 85 series (1985 to 1990) was a re-skinned IH 84 series (1977 to 1984) but with a Case engine and not the European IH engine of the true IH 84 series. Here's the thing too: the IH 84 series was a only a mildly updated IH 74 series (1973 to 1977). But there was an updated version of the CaseIH 85 series, and that was the 95 series (1991 to 1994). From that they went to the CaseIH 4200 series (1994 to 1997). Then to the C series (1998-1999) which used a Perkins engine (don't know why, but it could have emission reasons). These were all decendants of the original IH 74 series first released in 1973. After 1999 and the merger with NH to form CNH under Fiat, the small tractors were some sort of Fiat design/model that I'm not familiar with, as I recall. So there you have it: They certainly got a lot of mileage out of the original IH 74 series design, for good or bad reasons..... It's too bad your 585 was problematic. We had the IH 674 and many of our neighbors had the 574, all with the IH 1850 loader (popular loader where I grew up for some reason). They were the best tractors of the "big 4" of that size that was in our area (JD, IH, Ford and White). Other brands were not popular as dealerships were too far away. The 74 series was a very good tractor in it's day. The only thing that went on them were the clutches, no doubt because of the loaders that were on them! [/QUOTE]
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