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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 1188"><p>I didn't say it was wrong, just it would not make you any friends in the cattle community. If you can live with that, go for it.<p>: : Jay, your plan sounds good. We've found some stuff I'll pass on to you. 1. Some absentee landlords don't care how well or badly you manage the land, they just want their check on time. 2. Some absentee landlords are not absentee enough and want to tell you how to manage your operation. Some of the widows want the place run just like "Poppa" ran it. If he didn't do any pasture renovation or fertilizing, they don't want you to either. And he put the salt block out in a different spot, etc. 3. If you take someone's long time lease by paying more than the market price, it will not make you any friends in the cattle community. I've been on the short end of that stick and was not happy about it.Good luck.... With respect, I must make a point Frankie. There is nothing wrong with outbidding someone for a lease in my opinion. True, all you have to go on in the cattle "bitness" is your reputation, but one can't always please the crowd at the expense of putting food on the table for the family. Realestate is a shrewd business and I would offer the highest price I thought was feasible for a lease, regardless of who had it for how long. Just my thoughts.....thanks<p>: : <br>: : : The "business model" for my cow/calf operation involves substantial lease land. Several people I am involved with think GOOD leases are virtually impossible to obtain. I am talking about leases for 500+ units. Here in Texas, good land goes for $20-25 an acre. However, I think if you build a reputation of one who maintains the land being leased, fences, not overgrazing etc., people will bring the leases to you knowing what to expect. There are a great deal of old ladies out there with thousands of acres of productive land that would rather lease it out than ranch it. We are also seeing and increase of people who inherit ranches and have no idea how to run them or have no desire to do so. I think these two types of people are perfect targets to approach for grazing leases. I think a herd's potential is limitless through growing it on leased land. So you lose one lease, fine, you move them to another....I think they can be that easy to get once your up and running. I believe this is a way to perserve you capital by putting it in cows and not land. In the midst of this operation there is a "headquarters" of deeded land that serves as the nucleas of the operation. I know this is not at all very indepth, but I look forward to your responses and a chance to maybe explain all this in greater detail. I could literally type on and on for pages.......What are your thoughts???<p></p><p><br></p><p><br><hr size=4 width=75%><p></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 1188"] I didn't say it was wrong, just it would not make you any friends in the cattle community. If you can live with that, go for it.<p>: : Jay, your plan sounds good. We've found some stuff I'll pass on to you. 1. Some absentee landlords don't care how well or badly you manage the land, they just want their check on time. 2. Some absentee landlords are not absentee enough and want to tell you how to manage your operation. Some of the widows want the place run just like "Poppa" ran it. If he didn't do any pasture renovation or fertilizing, they don't want you to either. And he put the salt block out in a different spot, etc. 3. If you take someone's long time lease by paying more than the market price, it will not make you any friends in the cattle community. I've been on the short end of that stick and was not happy about it.Good luck.... With respect, I must make a point Frankie. There is nothing wrong with outbidding someone for a lease in my opinion. True, all you have to go on in the cattle "bitness" is your reputation, but one can't always please the crowd at the expense of putting food on the table for the family. Realestate is a shrewd business and I would offer the highest price I thought was feasible for a lease, regardless of who had it for how long. Just my thoughts.....thanks<p>: : <br>: : : The "business model" for my cow/calf operation involves substantial lease land. Several people I am involved with think GOOD leases are virtually impossible to obtain. I am talking about leases for 500+ units. Here in Texas, good land goes for $20-25 an acre. However, I think if you build a reputation of one who maintains the land being leased, fences, not overgrazing etc., people will bring the leases to you knowing what to expect. There are a great deal of old ladies out there with thousands of acres of productive land that would rather lease it out than ranch it. We are also seeing and increase of people who inherit ranches and have no idea how to run them or have no desire to do so. I think these two types of people are perfect targets to approach for grazing leases. I think a herd's potential is limitless through growing it on leased land. So you lose one lease, fine, you move them to another....I think they can be that easy to get once your up and running. I believe this is a way to perserve you capital by putting it in cows and not land. In the midst of this operation there is a "headquarters" of deeded land that serves as the nucleas of the operation. I know this is not at all very indepth, but I look forward to your responses and a chance to maybe explain all this in greater detail. I could literally type on and on for pages.......What are your thoughts???<p> <br> <br><hr size=4 width=75%><p> [/QUOTE]
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