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<blockquote data-quote="regolith" data-source="post: 683393" data-attributes="member: 9267"><p>I use both - the oral drench has the advantage of sustained release. For a down or staggery cow I'll always use the calcium boroglutamate i/v or under the skin for fast recovery, followed by the calol provided she can swallow and hasn't got up and run away. For one that's just looking a bit wobbly or not quite right I'll use only the drench, every twelve hours till she looks sound - or sometimes make up my own calving drench because it's cheap and easy.</p><p>With the combined i/v and oral her calcium levels should be good for twelve hours. Before I started doing that I would have been inclined to give another bag under the skin four to six hours later for serious cases. But calol is a special product - the first oral drench I used was a generic calcium chloride oil and I could see that it was effective, but it also burned the skin off my arms anywhere I touched the oil/saliva mix. Goodness knows what it did to the cow's throat.</p><p></p><p>alisonb, do you mean let-down hormone, oxytocin? I've used it three times so far this year, don't usually use it so much. The vet came today to remove a pea from the teat of a five year old cow, and I used it on her tonight to ensure that quarter milked-out, before giving her an intramammary penicillin. Poor thing was milking blood.</p><p>The other two times were heifers that didn't let their milkdown. First milking I usually try to be easy on heifers - if they stand still with the milking unit on that's good enough. Often the calf has taken everything they've got anyway. Second milking I expect to see them milk fully as well as good behaviour.</p><p></p><p>Speaking of which, I now have a heifer called Prudence.</p><p>Thought this morning was going to go smoothly until she decided otherwise. This evening I'd decided at the first hint of trouble she'd have a leg roped up - but she'd evidently decided it was prudent to stand still and milk.</p><p>Now at 77 cows calved and one thinking about it. Have hardly seen a bull calf in the last ten days. 14 bulls out of the last 47 calves. Still seeing a number of cow-calf sized calves from the heifers.</p><p></p><p>On milk fever, I have the belief based, on the observation a couple years back of one cow, that they're less likely to go down if you can keep the food in front of them - not mineral, just plain nourishment. It's standard here that dry cows are moved to fresh grass in the morning and eat their maintenance requirement in 4 - 5 hours. A cow calving in the middle of the night is a long way off a good meal, and one that calved shortly after the shift is even worse off because while she's calving and tending to her calf - everyone else is eating. Her share.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="regolith, post: 683393, member: 9267"] I use both - the oral drench has the advantage of sustained release. For a down or staggery cow I'll always use the calcium boroglutamate i/v or under the skin for fast recovery, followed by the calol provided she can swallow and hasn't got up and run away. For one that's just looking a bit wobbly or not quite right I'll use only the drench, every twelve hours till she looks sound - or sometimes make up my own calving drench because it's cheap and easy. With the combined i/v and oral her calcium levels should be good for twelve hours. Before I started doing that I would have been inclined to give another bag under the skin four to six hours later for serious cases. But calol is a special product - the first oral drench I used was a generic calcium chloride oil and I could see that it was effective, but it also burned the skin off my arms anywhere I touched the oil/saliva mix. Goodness knows what it did to the cow's throat. alisonb, do you mean let-down hormone, oxytocin? I've used it three times so far this year, don't usually use it so much. The vet came today to remove a pea from the teat of a five year old cow, and I used it on her tonight to ensure that quarter milked-out, before giving her an intramammary penicillin. Poor thing was milking blood. The other two times were heifers that didn't let their milkdown. First milking I usually try to be easy on heifers - if they stand still with the milking unit on that's good enough. Often the calf has taken everything they've got anyway. Second milking I expect to see them milk fully as well as good behaviour. Speaking of which, I now have a heifer called Prudence. Thought this morning was going to go smoothly until she decided otherwise. This evening I'd decided at the first hint of trouble she'd have a leg roped up - but she'd evidently decided it was prudent to stand still and milk. Now at 77 cows calved and one thinking about it. Have hardly seen a bull calf in the last ten days. 14 bulls out of the last 47 calves. Still seeing a number of cow-calf sized calves from the heifers. On milk fever, I have the belief based, on the observation a couple years back of one cow, that they're less likely to go down if you can keep the food in front of them - not mineral, just plain nourishment. It's standard here that dry cows are moved to fresh grass in the morning and eat their maintenance requirement in 4 - 5 hours. A cow calving in the middle of the night is a long way off a good meal, and one that calved shortly after the shift is even worse off because while she's calving and tending to her calf - everyone else is eating. Her share. [/QUOTE]
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