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<blockquote data-quote="regolith" data-source="post: 753574" data-attributes="member: 9267"><p>"I'm not a sandal wearing hippie but..." :roll: :roll: </p><p></p><p>(actually said by a farmer at a meeting I attended).</p><p>HD, some of these organisations have given 'animal welfare' such a bad name that people who *actually* work day to day wih animals are reluctant to be associated with the phrase.</p><p></p><p>I know some of us have different ideas about what the minimum standards are, or should be.</p><p>I also know that almost every dairy farmer I've worked with or for has a strong interest in the good welfare and health of his animals. (I need to make one exception that I've worked for, and also note that my current farm owners apparently think it all above board to endanger my stock.)</p><p></p><p>Holly, couldn't quote you the science but while it still guides the legislation, I believe it's an old and now thoroughly disproved notion that painful procedures can be done at an early age without pain relief. An infant's inability to express pain does not mean it can't feel it.</p><p>Did you find these studies on-line? I wouldn't mind having a look at them.</p><p></p><p>You know one of the more bizarre things is that a couple I know who treat their cows very, very well, dock every single one of them. But that's on-board with one of the pre-ban studies I saw that tried to find a difference in attitude or practices between farmers who docked and those who didn't, and found none.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="regolith, post: 753574, member: 9267"] "I'm not a sandal wearing hippie but..." :roll: :roll: (actually said by a farmer at a meeting I attended). HD, some of these organisations have given 'animal welfare' such a bad name that people who *actually* work day to day wih animals are reluctant to be associated with the phrase. I know some of us have different ideas about what the minimum standards are, or should be. I also know that almost every dairy farmer I've worked with or for has a strong interest in the good welfare and health of his animals. (I need to make one exception that I've worked for, and also note that my current farm owners apparently think it all above board to endanger my stock.) Holly, couldn't quote you the science but while it still guides the legislation, I believe it's an old and now thoroughly disproved notion that painful procedures can be done at an early age without pain relief. An infant's inability to express pain does not mean it can't feel it. Did you find these studies on-line? I wouldn't mind having a look at them. You know one of the more bizarre things is that a couple I know who treat their cows very, very well, dock every single one of them. But that's on-board with one of the pre-ban studies I saw that tried to find a difference in attitude or practices between farmers who docked and those who didn't, and found none. [/QUOTE]
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