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<blockquote data-quote="IluvABbeef" data-source="post: 595533" data-attributes="member: 3739"><p>That's what my goals are. (Still got a few years to go before these plans are implemented, so right now I'm sounding like the type of person that's all talk and no action. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite10" alt=":oops:" title="Oops! :oops:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":oops:" /> )</p><p></p><p>How to put them into place will, ironically, cost me a fair bit to get into place. Someone was quoted to have said, in one of the threads on this here beginners board, that raising cattle was a rich man's reality and a poor man's dream...well, guess that means I'm a poor "man". ;-) </p><p></p><p>So basically what I want to do or hope to do is, first and foremost, change the handling facilities design to better manage cattle with much less stress and danger to the handler. </p><p></p><p>Second, I want to fence off the swamp area that is in the main corrals, fence it off completely so that swamp grasses can establish themselves like out in the older pasture. The part that is closest to the barn would be one of the main corrals, and the other part on the other side of the swamp (since this swamp divides the back corral into 2) convert that to pasture. Manure piles'll be gone by the time I get to wanting to seed that part. Other parts that are also swamps should be fenced off too. I learned recently that those swamp areas or low spots that really like to collect water in spring runoff retain their quality in times of drought, and can be grazed off a little bit at odd times. </p><p></p><p>Third, crop land is converted to pasture/hay. Both hay and pasture areas would be not segregated into which is for hay and which is for pasture, because with the type of grazing I want to have (primarily MIG), pasture left over would be cut and baled for winter bale grazing. (Think about how much land I have I am able to use when I start: 2 quarter sections!) All hay/pasture sections are fenced off (obviously), as well as the more obvious swamps on there. Haven't decided whether to section off different parts of one quarter section into different pastures, though it sounds to be worth it, considering the MIG systems to be used. Primary fertilizer will be the cow patties and legumes.</p><p></p><p>As for cattle, I think my last post of what I wanted to do still reside: buy a few 3-in-1's, keep replacements, build up herd to be large enough to start crossbreeding, cull for temperment, udders, fertility, conformation, BCS, etc., AI first few years or so (thinking about leasing bull option, possibly), cows fed grass only (no grain whatsoever), 60-90 day calving season, 50-60 d breeding season (too long?), what time of year still debatable....probably early spring as nature intended...maybe background calves, dunno about preconditioning...preg check? probably can do that myself...what else did I miss? </p><p></p><p>Oh yeah breed: maybe shorthorn <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Maybe cross with herf, or...red angus...wanna have some breed that is moderate framed, not too big (not the big framed girls that weigh >/= 1600 lbs), is an easy keeper that raises a soggy calf and has good temperment and great feed conversion with the type of forage I'm putting them on.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, anything anyone sees amiss or whatever let me know, I got a thick skin. (sorry for the long post btw)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IluvABbeef, post: 595533, member: 3739"] That's what my goals are. (Still got a few years to go before these plans are implemented, so right now I'm sounding like the type of person that's all talk and no action. :oops: ) How to put them into place will, ironically, cost me a fair bit to get into place. Someone was quoted to have said, in one of the threads on this here beginners board, that raising cattle was a rich man's reality and a poor man's dream...well, guess that means I'm a poor "man". ;-) So basically what I want to do or hope to do is, first and foremost, change the handling facilities design to better manage cattle with much less stress and danger to the handler. Second, I want to fence off the swamp area that is in the main corrals, fence it off completely so that swamp grasses can establish themselves like out in the older pasture. The part that is closest to the barn would be one of the main corrals, and the other part on the other side of the swamp (since this swamp divides the back corral into 2) convert that to pasture. Manure piles'll be gone by the time I get to wanting to seed that part. Other parts that are also swamps should be fenced off too. I learned recently that those swamp areas or low spots that really like to collect water in spring runoff retain their quality in times of drought, and can be grazed off a little bit at odd times. Third, crop land is converted to pasture/hay. Both hay and pasture areas would be not segregated into which is for hay and which is for pasture, because with the type of grazing I want to have (primarily MIG), pasture left over would be cut and baled for winter bale grazing. (Think about how much land I have I am able to use when I start: 2 quarter sections!) All hay/pasture sections are fenced off (obviously), as well as the more obvious swamps on there. Haven't decided whether to section off different parts of one quarter section into different pastures, though it sounds to be worth it, considering the MIG systems to be used. Primary fertilizer will be the cow patties and legumes. As for cattle, I think my last post of what I wanted to do still reside: buy a few 3-in-1's, keep replacements, build up herd to be large enough to start crossbreeding, cull for temperment, udders, fertility, conformation, BCS, etc., AI first few years or so (thinking about leasing bull option, possibly), cows fed grass only (no grain whatsoever), 60-90 day calving season, 50-60 d breeding season (too long?), what time of year still debatable....probably early spring as nature intended...maybe background calves, dunno about preconditioning...preg check? probably can do that myself...what else did I miss? Oh yeah breed: maybe shorthorn :) Maybe cross with herf, or...red angus...wanna have some breed that is moderate framed, not too big (not the big framed girls that weigh >/= 1600 lbs), is an easy keeper that raises a soggy calf and has good temperment and great feed conversion with the type of forage I'm putting them on. Anyway, anything anyone sees amiss or whatever let me know, I got a thick skin. (sorry for the long post btw) [/QUOTE]
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