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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1834986" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>[USER=40418]@simme[/USER] [USER=24565]@Ebenezer[/USER] yall both bring up some good points. </p><p>I've often questioned a lot of things that get told about why the regional price difference and have heard every example y'all gave as reasons. </p><p>I've seen a lot of changes over the years since I was young, in the cattle around here in KY. </p><p>It used to be most all calves were not weaned until they left on the truck to go to the stockyards, and no vaccinations. Back then 70's and 80's weaning weights were around 400 lbs. As much as I hate to say it because I love KY and the southeast states, but there was more so then than now a tendency to be a little behind the times at least in KY. Even into the early 90's you'd still see some herds of 900 or so pound Angus and Hereford cows and bulls maybe 1200 or around 1500 at the most for mature bulls.</p><p>But the continental influence was changing that at that time.</p><p>Another thing is few people back then had good working facilities.</p><p>The tobacco settlement money cost share programs did a lot to improve genetics and infrastructure. Of course some were doing it in their own too.</p><p>The extension and cattlemens meetings were recommending herd health vaccination programs and promoting weaning and backgrounding to f calves before marketing. </p><p>By now there are quite a few farmers that are meticulously following BQA guidelines and vaccination protocols. Genetics have also gotten more mainstream too. I'd venture to say average weaning weights are around 550 now. </p><p>Even though a majority are doing the value added stuff there's still some that don't and still a few that probably say they do but don't. </p><p>We've bought calves that were supposed to have been weaned and vaccinated per a certain type of sale and some were not.</p><p>I believe for the most part it's a regional stereotype that still persists. </p><p>I think if more people retained ownership through feeding out we might learn a few more details to get to the bottom of what's really at play. </p><p>Right now as cow calf producers we just market our calves and the knowledge ends there. Anything else that's told of beyond our farms we don't know for sure, all we have to go on is what little broad term talk that goes around.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1834986, member: 24816"] [USER=40418]@simme[/USER] [USER=24565]@Ebenezer[/USER] yall both bring up some good points. I’ve often questioned a lot of things that get told about why the regional price difference and have heard every example y’all gave as reasons. I’ve seen a lot of changes over the years since I was young, in the cattle around here in KY. It used to be most all calves were not weaned until they left on the truck to go to the stockyards, and no vaccinations. Back then 70’s and 80’s weaning weights were around 400 lbs. As much as I hate to say it because I love KY and the southeast states, but there was more so then than now a tendency to be a little behind the times at least in KY. Even into the early 90’s you’d still see some herds of 900 or so pound Angus and Hereford cows and bulls maybe 1200 or around 1500 at the most for mature bulls. But the continental influence was changing that at that time. Another thing is few people back then had good working facilities. The tobacco settlement money cost share programs did a lot to improve genetics and infrastructure. Of course some were doing it in their own too. The extension and cattlemens meetings were recommending herd health vaccination programs and promoting weaning and backgrounding to f calves before marketing. By now there are quite a few farmers that are meticulously following BQA guidelines and vaccination protocols. Genetics have also gotten more mainstream too. I’d venture to say average weaning weights are around 550 now. Even though a majority are doing the value added stuff there’s still some that don’t and still a few that probably say they do but don’t. We’ve bought calves that were supposed to have been weaned and vaccinated per a certain type of sale and some were not. I believe for the most part it’s a regional stereotype that still persists. I think if more people retained ownership through feeding out we might learn a few more details to get to the bottom of what’s really at play. Right now as cow calf producers we just market our calves and the knowledge ends there. Anything else that’s told of beyond our farms we don’t know for sure, all we have to go on is what little broad term talk that goes around. [/QUOTE]
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