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<blockquote data-quote="milkmaid" data-source="post: 213658" data-attributes="member: 852"><p>Which penicillin do you use? Twin Pen (procaine - benzathine) or the shorter acting procaine? SubQ? or IMM? (I'm assuming SQ, but I just want to double check.) And do you use it alone or in conjunction with a dry treatment...and if so, which one?</p><p></p><p>I know what you mean about pen withdrawals. LOL. We had one cow with a urinary tract infection and per the Merck Vet Manual and my vet's advice, put her on over 60cc's of Twin Pen per day. She was on antibiotics for a little over a week and took 2 1/2 weeks after coming off treatment before the antibiotic test came back OK. :lol:</p><p></p><p>Right now I have...a significant portion...of cows with black bands of Gorilla tape. Black is, as mentioned before, our cows with clinical or subclinical mastitis. Ones that are not being treated due to length of infection or some other reason (like they've been treated before and it came back. Cow gets one chance.). Most are staph cows, some are ecoli, had one come back as strep the other day, and then some random number are unknown. I haven't run a culture on every cow.</p><p></p><p>Red duct taped cows are of course on antibiotics. Green are 3 quartered.</p><p></p><p>Food for thought for you- is it possible to have a herd clean of staph? Boss was telling me he didn't use to have problems with staph. It started about 10-15 years ago when he picked up a few lactating cows from someone else's dairy that were carrying it. Ever since then he's always had a few cows in the herd with staph.</p><p></p><p>I would think if it were possible to treat new cases before staph had a chance to become established, and clean up old cases at dry off, that the few that didn't respond would eventually cull themselves and you'd be almost free of it. What do you think? So far I just haven't been able to <strong>cure </strong>these cows. I have one new case on Pirsue at the moment and another new case that I'll treat in the morning and have my vet run a culture on Monday to make sure I'm using the right stuff. (I figured out why we've had two new-new cases in the last week and we hadn't had any for 2-3 months before that - and it'll suffice to say it isn't my fault.)</p><p></p><p>What antibiotics do you usually treat lactating cows with? What have you found to work best?</p><p></p><p>We have one cow here that I'd like to kill the R/F on. Bad case of staph (cultured), treated once and it came back...right now boss is out of town and I'm just waiting for his permission. Have you ever killed quarters? Boss hadn't ever done it in the past so we've been experimenting lately. I know folks that use chlorhexidine and ones that use formaldahyde. I've read about use of povidone iodide but never met anyone that used it.</p><p></p><p>I've used chlorhexidine a few times but so far I've ended up with some swollen hot quarters and it doesn't always kill the infection off, either. The cows I've seen "treated" with formaldahyde had quarters deader'n a doornail. It certainly works but my vet pointed out it can be "a little" hard on the cow. Any thoughts along those lines?</p><p></p><p>You mentioned you thought flushing the units with a hose worked better than dipping in sanitizer water did...I'd wondered about that a little myself, but at the same time figured using the recommended concentration of 2% iodine and hot water would kill any bugs that end up in the water. :?: How about a chlorine-water mix?</p><p></p><p>I heard someone use the quote I have in my signature now and I really liked it - sure applies to a lot of things that go on with cows. <em>Your decisions are only as good as the information you base them on.</em> I try to learn as much as I can so I'll be making good solid decisions! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="milkmaid, post: 213658, member: 852"] Which penicillin do you use? Twin Pen (procaine - benzathine) or the shorter acting procaine? SubQ? or IMM? (I'm assuming SQ, but I just want to double check.) And do you use it alone or in conjunction with a dry treatment...and if so, which one? I know what you mean about pen withdrawals. LOL. We had one cow with a urinary tract infection and per the Merck Vet Manual and my vet's advice, put her on over 60cc's of Twin Pen per day. She was on antibiotics for a little over a week and took 2 1/2 weeks after coming off treatment before the antibiotic test came back OK. :lol: Right now I have...a significant portion...of cows with black bands of Gorilla tape. Black is, as mentioned before, our cows with clinical or subclinical mastitis. Ones that are not being treated due to length of infection or some other reason (like they've been treated before and it came back. Cow gets one chance.). Most are staph cows, some are ecoli, had one come back as strep the other day, and then some random number are unknown. I haven't run a culture on every cow. Red duct taped cows are of course on antibiotics. Green are 3 quartered. Food for thought for you- is it possible to have a herd clean of staph? Boss was telling me he didn't use to have problems with staph. It started about 10-15 years ago when he picked up a few lactating cows from someone else's dairy that were carrying it. Ever since then he's always had a few cows in the herd with staph. I would think if it were possible to treat new cases before staph had a chance to become established, and clean up old cases at dry off, that the few that didn't respond would eventually cull themselves and you'd be almost free of it. What do you think? So far I just haven't been able to [b]cure [/b]these cows. I have one new case on Pirsue at the moment and another new case that I'll treat in the morning and have my vet run a culture on Monday to make sure I'm using the right stuff. (I figured out why we've had two new-new cases in the last week and we hadn't had any for 2-3 months before that - and it'll suffice to say it isn't my fault.) What antibiotics do you usually treat lactating cows with? What have you found to work best? We have one cow here that I'd like to kill the R/F on. Bad case of staph (cultured), treated once and it came back...right now boss is out of town and I'm just waiting for his permission. Have you ever killed quarters? Boss hadn't ever done it in the past so we've been experimenting lately. I know folks that use chlorhexidine and ones that use formaldahyde. I've read about use of povidone iodide but never met anyone that used it. I've used chlorhexidine a few times but so far I've ended up with some swollen hot quarters and it doesn't always kill the infection off, either. The cows I've seen "treated" with formaldahyde had quarters deader'n a doornail. It certainly works but my vet pointed out it can be "a little" hard on the cow. Any thoughts along those lines? You mentioned you thought flushing the units with a hose worked better than dipping in sanitizer water did...I'd wondered about that a little myself, but at the same time figured using the recommended concentration of 2% iodine and hot water would kill any bugs that end up in the water. :?: How about a chlorine-water mix? I heard someone use the quote I have in my signature now and I really liked it - sure applies to a lot of things that go on with cows. [i]Your decisions are only as good as the information you base them on.[/i] I try to learn as much as I can so I'll be making good solid decisions! :) [/QUOTE]
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