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<blockquote data-quote="Fire Sweep Ranch" data-source="post: 981979" data-attributes="member: 18809"><p>Why are twins a bad trait? </p><p>It's not likely genetics (the cow has never thrown twins). Sold a twin bull last year (twin to a heifer), and the bull's calves are now hitting the ground, no twins yet. He is servicing a big commercial herd. Maybe my naive-ness, but I can honestly say I have never had anyone I know select against twins for breeding animals. I know in most herds, including ours, twins are not desirable but if there is no likely genetic link in a lineage I will still use a bull (AI). On a side note, their dam is doing a fantastic job raising the boys. She looks great, and they look great, and they are not on creep, just hay and milk. That is something I know I would want to reproduce! </p><p>I agree about pictures, seems you can never get a perfect one. Thanks for the complement, we cull hard and cut most of our bulls (spring crop brought ONE bull we kept, the rest we cut). They have to be at the top to keep their jewels. Most get shown all spring and summer, so we get a pretty good feel of what others think about our boys (our kids have won champion bred and owned bull at Missouri State Fair for two years in a row now). Our heifers have to make good cows, or down the road they go. My kids have learned that all animals have to pull their weight around here, even if they are a favorite show heifer that is now a pasture cow. They get no grain or supplement, so we like to say "we don't raise show cattle, we show cattle we raise". A great example is the cow in the background of the red bull calf; she has raised 5 calves in 6 years, and breeds back early every year. She has been to 3 National shows as a cow, placing 4th overall pair in 2009, 3rd overall pair in Iowa in 2010 and 4th overall pair in Missouri in 2011, along with winning Reserve Champion cow calf pair at Missouri State Fair in 2011. We retired her after that. Her daughter is now following in her footsteps (the dam to the Grandmaster heifer pictured).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fire Sweep Ranch, post: 981979, member: 18809"] Why are twins a bad trait? It's not likely genetics (the cow has never thrown twins). Sold a twin bull last year (twin to a heifer), and the bull's calves are now hitting the ground, no twins yet. He is servicing a big commercial herd. Maybe my naive-ness, but I can honestly say I have never had anyone I know select against twins for breeding animals. I know in most herds, including ours, twins are not desirable but if there is no likely genetic link in a lineage I will still use a bull (AI). On a side note, their dam is doing a fantastic job raising the boys. She looks great, and they look great, and they are not on creep, just hay and milk. That is something I know I would want to reproduce! I agree about pictures, seems you can never get a perfect one. Thanks for the complement, we cull hard and cut most of our bulls (spring crop brought ONE bull we kept, the rest we cut). They have to be at the top to keep their jewels. Most get shown all spring and summer, so we get a pretty good feel of what others think about our boys (our kids have won champion bred and owned bull at Missouri State Fair for two years in a row now). Our heifers have to make good cows, or down the road they go. My kids have learned that all animals have to pull their weight around here, even if they are a favorite show heifer that is now a pasture cow. They get no grain or supplement, so we like to say "we don't raise show cattle, we show cattle we raise". A great example is the cow in the background of the red bull calf; she has raised 5 calves in 6 years, and breeds back early every year. She has been to 3 National shows as a cow, placing 4th overall pair in 2009, 3rd overall pair in Iowa in 2010 and 4th overall pair in Missouri in 2011, along with winning Reserve Champion cow calf pair at Missouri State Fair in 2011. We retired her after that. Her daughter is now following in her footsteps (the dam to the Grandmaster heifer pictured). [/QUOTE]
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