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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky" data-source="post: 1567740" data-attributes="member: 32659"><p>Roof Top Solar power is too expensive for the average Joe to install, by the time it pays in savings the usable life of the panels is gone. Also any power you produce and don't use gets sold in the "todays" market price. The power companies don't want this so fight to keep roof top solar unaffordable. If solar was the real deal California would be soley powered by solar....there's a huge uninhabitable desert very close by. I can sort of understand wind power but have a really hard time with solar power. </p><p></p><p> I'm sure the company building the solar plant CG8 talks about will be tapping into Luminants old lines from the coal plant that shut down, it's the only way it's even feasible to build the thing. </p><p></p><p> 6,000 acres could run roughly 1,500 head of cattle in this country. Those cattle would produce jobs and money for people in the area. I know folks argue that cattle don't make money but people with cattle spend allot to make a little. The solar plant might employ 20 people and if it doesn't pan out will be left a waste land. </p><p></p><p> Tell me this CG8 how many days out of the last 100 has the sunshine been bright enough to power a pinwheel for more the 20 minutes? There's been allot of nights my wifes little solar light on the patio isn't on and that thing wouldn't light up a piss ants house in the summer. </p><p></p><p> I'm really glad for the folks that own the land and benifit from the wind and solar, I just hope they choose the monthly rent option and not the MW's produced payment option. </p><p></p><p> I believe Envenergy is building the plant CG8 is talking about.</p><p></p><p> CG8 mentioned batteries for power storage. Batteries are in the fledgling stage at best. I do think once they start using them the technology will advance fairly quickly. The problem now is that these things are the size of a conex box and nobody wants to talk about what to do with them once they are used up. Maybe use them to store cow farts? When I say fairly quickly I'm talking 10 years. maybe I'm just old and don't understand all this crazy go green stuff, or maybe there's a bigger picture by the folks that want control of the land.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky, post: 1567740, member: 32659"] Roof Top Solar power is too expensive for the average Joe to install, by the time it pays in savings the usable life of the panels is gone. Also any power you produce and don’t use gets sold in the “todays” market price. The power companies don’t want this so fight to keep roof top solar unaffordable. If solar was the real deal California would be soley powered by solar....there’s a huge uninhabitable desert very close by. I can sort of understand wind power but have a really hard time with solar power. I’m sure the company building the solar plant CG8 talks about will be tapping into Luminants old lines from the coal plant that shut down, it’s the only way it’s even feasible to build the thing. 6,000 acres could run roughly 1,500 head of cattle in this country. Those cattle would produce jobs and money for people in the area. I know folks argue that cattle don’t make money but people with cattle spend allot to make a little. The solar plant might employ 20 people and if it doesn’t pan out will be left a waste land. Tell me this CG8 how many days out of the last 100 has the sunshine been bright enough to power a pinwheel for more the 20 minutes? There’s been allot of nights my wifes little solar light on the patio isn’t on and that thing wouldn’t light up a piss ants house in the summer. I’m really glad for the folks that own the land and benifit from the wind and solar, I just hope they choose the monthly rent option and not the MW’s produced payment option. I believe Envenergy is building the plant CG8 is talking about. CG8 mentioned batteries for power storage. Batteries are in the fledgling stage at best. I do think once they start using them the technology will advance fairly quickly. The problem now is that these things are the size of a conex box and nobody wants to talk about what to do with them once they are used up. Maybe use them to store cow farts? When I say fairly quickly I’m talking 10 years. maybe I’m just old and don’t understand all this crazy go green stuff, or maybe there’s a bigger picture by the folks that want control of the land. [/QUOTE]
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