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<blockquote data-quote="SPH" data-source="post: 1682271" data-attributes="member: 20580"><p>You are free to use any bull you want but if you choose to use one that is a known defect carrier you also need to do the responsible thing and DNA test any progeny that is not sent to the feedlot for genetic defects as you will want to know which animals are carriers and how to properly manage them. Personally it is so much easier to just avoid breeding to a bull with a known defect because it's 1 less expense to not have to DNA test every single calf you decide to keep or sell as seedstock and less hassle to manage as well. If you are just breeding for terminal cattle and everything sired by that bull is going to wind up on a dinner plate then by all means use that bull as much as you want because you aren't going to be adding more animals carrying the defect into the population that way. The scary thing is who knows just how many commercial animals out there across any breed that are defect carriers that we don't know about. This is where being a good steward of your own genetics comes into play because who is to say some guy bought a load of crossbreds at the sale barn that is carrying a genetic defect and then goes out and buys a bull that is also a carrier then next thing they know they are getting dead calves or other genetic disorders from the mating.</p><p></p><p>We've used 2 bulls AI now that at the time had no known genetic defects with 936 having later be identified as a MSUD carrier and then Small Town Kid with MD. We had to pull a bunch of DNA samples from anything directly related to 936 or our 936 son that also came up MSUC to make sure we knew which or if any of our females had it so we could make management decisions and luckily we only used Small Town Kid for 2 breeding seasons so we didn't get a lot calves by him and the ones we did either got DNA tested or sent to the feedlot. Both bulls sired some nice calves for us but knowing what we know now we'd never use either of them again just because it's not good for our herd and seedstock customers to be playing roulette with genetic defects that we can proactively avoid by just not using a bull that we know is a defect carrier. That's just our breeding philosophy and that is not saying what we do is what everyone should do but it is also a bit careless if you do choose to use a defect carrier that you do so with the intent to DNA test anything you keep back for replacements or otherwise send the calves off to the feedlot where they can't propagate the defect any further if they are a carrier. There are plenty of sons out of these genetic lines that you can probably find a good one that is not a carrier to use if you really want to use that line of genetics too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SPH, post: 1682271, member: 20580"] You are free to use any bull you want but if you choose to use one that is a known defect carrier you also need to do the responsible thing and DNA test any progeny that is not sent to the feedlot for genetic defects as you will want to know which animals are carriers and how to properly manage them. Personally it is so much easier to just avoid breeding to a bull with a known defect because it's 1 less expense to not have to DNA test every single calf you decide to keep or sell as seedstock and less hassle to manage as well. If you are just breeding for terminal cattle and everything sired by that bull is going to wind up on a dinner plate then by all means use that bull as much as you want because you aren't going to be adding more animals carrying the defect into the population that way. The scary thing is who knows just how many commercial animals out there across any breed that are defect carriers that we don't know about. This is where being a good steward of your own genetics comes into play because who is to say some guy bought a load of crossbreds at the sale barn that is carrying a genetic defect and then goes out and buys a bull that is also a carrier then next thing they know they are getting dead calves or other genetic disorders from the mating. We've used 2 bulls AI now that at the time had no known genetic defects with 936 having later be identified as a MSUD carrier and then Small Town Kid with MD. We had to pull a bunch of DNA samples from anything directly related to 936 or our 936 son that also came up MSUC to make sure we knew which or if any of our females had it so we could make management decisions and luckily we only used Small Town Kid for 2 breeding seasons so we didn't get a lot calves by him and the ones we did either got DNA tested or sent to the feedlot. Both bulls sired some nice calves for us but knowing what we know now we'd never use either of them again just because it's not good for our herd and seedstock customers to be playing roulette with genetic defects that we can proactively avoid by just not using a bull that we know is a defect carrier. That's just our breeding philosophy and that is not saying what we do is what everyone should do but it is also a bit careless if you do choose to use a defect carrier that you do so with the intent to DNA test anything you keep back for replacements or otherwise send the calves off to the feedlot where they can't propagate the defect any further if they are a carrier. There are plenty of sons out of these genetic lines that you can probably find a good one that is not a carrier to use if you really want to use that line of genetics too. [/QUOTE]
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