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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm2" data-source="post: 181446" data-attributes="member: 2095"><p>I agree with that to a point Cypress. When I am looking for a bull, what he looks like, depth, width, length, height, muscling, head size and shape, structure, etc matter a lot more than who his daddy was. I also like to see good balanced EPDs and acceptable performance numbers from the bull (no 450 lb weaning wt dinks or 115 lb birth wts) and I had better like his mama...</p><p></p><p>All that said, I think it is a selling point if I recognize some names in the pedigree. I am not willing to say that I would automatically reject a John Doe bull, sired by a John Doe bull, out of a John Doe cow, who was sired by a previous John Doe bull; but somebody who runs a closed herd is going to have to really do a good job of convincing me that he knows what he is doing and that his cattle are good enough to get the job done. This is also where reputation matters. If I know the breeder and I know the cattle he produces, I care less about the pedigree than I do if I have NEVER purchased any cattle from him in the past and don't know anybody who has. IF you have sold hundreds of bulls over the years and have established a reputation, I think it is a lot easier to sell home bred bulls out of home bred cows; than if this is your first foray into the bull business.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm2, post: 181446, member: 2095"] I agree with that to a point Cypress. When I am looking for a bull, what he looks like, depth, width, length, height, muscling, head size and shape, structure, etc matter a lot more than who his daddy was. I also like to see good balanced EPDs and acceptable performance numbers from the bull (no 450 lb weaning wt dinks or 115 lb birth wts) and I had better like his mama... All that said, I think it is a selling point if I recognize some names in the pedigree. I am not willing to say that I would automatically reject a John Doe bull, sired by a John Doe bull, out of a John Doe cow, who was sired by a previous John Doe bull; but somebody who runs a closed herd is going to have to really do a good job of convincing me that he knows what he is doing and that his cattle are good enough to get the job done. This is also where reputation matters. If I know the breeder and I know the cattle he produces, I care less about the pedigree than I do if I have NEVER purchased any cattle from him in the past and don't know anybody who has. IF you have sold hundreds of bulls over the years and have established a reputation, I think it is a lot easier to sell home bred bulls out of home bred cows; than if this is your first foray into the bull business. [/QUOTE]
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