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<blockquote data-quote="JustSimmental" data-source="post: 834333" data-attributes="member: 14624"><p>To answer your question Simmental and Blk Angus will definately work best and here is my information when looking at the various breeds:</p><p><a href="http://www.beefcattlebiz.com/support-files/abepd.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.beefcattlebiz.com/support-files/abepd.pdf</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This data chart was first published by the Virginia Cooperative Extension Service in 2009; then again in August of 2010. Here is that link: <a href="http://pubs.ext.vt.edu/news/livestock/2010/08/LU-08-01-10-4.html" target="_blank">http://pubs.ext.vt.edu/news/livestock/2010/08/LU-08-01-10-4.html</a> </p><p></p><p>Again, this same chart was published in The Register Dec/Jan issue 2011. </p><p></p><p>This is a guide to help ranchers choose crosses best suited for meat production, which doesn't always mean weight; nevertheless, as you can see thru their chart (which is the chart I provided) some breeds are very much lacking. </p><p></p><p>The sooner we can get all breeds EPD's (of economic importance) balanced as ONE-- the sooner most ranchers will have a better understanding of them. One set would greatly simplify a currently messed up "EPD by breed" scenario. </p><p></p><p>I didnt provide this to put down any certain breeds, but just to get the thought processes rolling on Across Breed EPD's. </p><p></p><p>Would this hurt a few breeds? YES, some breeds as you can see like Brahman influenced cattle just won't make the "mark" in the meat business. Are they good cattle ---sure-- they have their place--somewhere in a harsh climate. </p><p></p><p>Look at the King Ranch-- they knew Gerts weren't making the grade and what did they do? They developed another breed that was better in the carcass merit traits that could survive in their environ. Basically the 3/8's brahman influenced cattle-- dont make the mark. We are in the "beef business" ya know....... some people still call it the cattle business, but it is really the beef business where quality pounds always pay more than quantity pounds. </p><p></p><p>This info has been available for yearssssssss. I didn't just dig this up somewhere.</p><p>Maybe you should join the 21st Century and get up to date on your knowledge base. </p><p></p><p><strong>Maybe you could relate to those of us raising all those terrible cattle listed on your chart where that data came from. I see a lot of contradictions there as they relate to my real world experience.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I realize this would be considered anecdotal but the YW data I an seeing in various sale catalogues from around the country do not bear out your data.</strong></p></blockquote><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="JustSimmental, post: 834333, member: 14624"] To answer your question Simmental and Blk Angus will definately work best and here is my information when looking at the various breeds: [url]http://www.beefcattlebiz.com/support-files/abepd.pdf[/url] This data chart was first published by the Virginia Cooperative Extension Service in 2009; then again in August of 2010. Here is that link: [url]http://pubs.ext.vt.edu/news/livestock/2010/08/LU-08-01-10-4.html[/url] Again, this same chart was published in The Register Dec/Jan issue 2011. This is a guide to help ranchers choose crosses best suited for meat production, which doesn't always mean weight; nevertheless, as you can see thru their chart (which is the chart I provided) some breeds are very much lacking. The sooner we can get all breeds EPD's (of economic importance) balanced as ONE-- the sooner most ranchers will have a better understanding of them. One set would greatly simplify a currently messed up "EPD by breed" scenario. I didnt provide this to put down any certain breeds, but just to get the thought processes rolling on Across Breed EPD's. Would this hurt a few breeds? YES, some breeds as you can see like Brahman influenced cattle just won't make the "mark" in the meat business. Are they good cattle ---sure-- they have their place--somewhere in a harsh climate. Look at the King Ranch-- they knew Gerts weren't making the grade and what did they do? They developed another breed that was better in the carcass merit traits that could survive in their environ. Basically the 3/8's brahman influenced cattle-- dont make the mark. We are in the "beef business" ya know....... some people still call it the cattle business, but it is really the beef business where quality pounds always pay more than quantity pounds. This info has been available for yearssssssss. I didn't just dig this up somewhere. Maybe you should join the 21st Century and get up to date on your knowledge base. [b]Maybe you could relate to those of us raising all those terrible cattle listed on your chart where that data came from. I see a lot of contradictions there as they relate to my real world experience. I realize this would be considered anecdotal but the YW data I an seeing in various sale catalogues from around the country do not bear out your data.[/b][/quote] [/QUOTE]
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