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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1684456" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>Exactly... it comes down to making appropriate choices.</p><p></p><p>First Simmental influence we introduced into our herd(in south AL) was a halfblood Simbrah bull we bought in 1983 to go over mixed AngusXHereford cross cattle... calving ease was as good as any Angus bull we'd had, but the calves were head and shoulders above any Angus-sired calves we'd ever raised. Used him for several years... only calf we ever had to assist was an 'oops', out of a little yearling heifer. Lent him to a friend for a year or two for use as a heifer bull over his Limousin heifers before he went on to the salebarn. </p><p></p><p>Started using Simmental AI sires on our own herd in 1987, but I always considered the CED epd first and foremost... even on cows. We were in a busy mixed-animal veterinary practice, and couldn't count on being home to help our own cows if they had difficulty calving... was spending all day and night driving over the hills of southern middle TN pulling calves out of other folks' cows. Regardless, we never needed to pull one of our own. </p><p>Since my original herd was composed mainly of Holstein heifers we'd raised, I went with Fleckvieh bulls early on, to reduce frame size and increase muscling. </p><p>Later on, we continued to use Simmental sires, and had no more issues with them than with Angus or Shorthorn sires... but we always picked bulls with reasonable CED/BW epds... we didn't necessarily go for low BW/high CED for adult cows, but no sense in chasing trouble with known or potential hard-calvers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1684456, member: 12607"] Exactly... it comes down to making appropriate choices. First Simmental influence we introduced into our herd(in south AL) was a halfblood Simbrah bull we bought in 1983 to go over mixed AngusXHereford cross cattle... calving ease was as good as any Angus bull we'd had, but the calves were head and shoulders above any Angus-sired calves we'd ever raised. Used him for several years... only calf we ever had to assist was an 'oops', out of a little yearling heifer. Lent him to a friend for a year or two for use as a heifer bull over his Limousin heifers before he went on to the salebarn. Started using Simmental AI sires on our own herd in 1987, but I always considered the CED epd first and foremost... even on cows. We were in a busy mixed-animal veterinary practice, and couldn't count on being home to help our own cows if they had difficulty calving... was spending all day and night driving over the hills of southern middle TN pulling calves out of other folks' cows. Regardless, we never needed to pull one of our own. Since my original herd was composed mainly of Holstein heifers we'd raised, I went with Fleckvieh bulls early on, to reduce frame size and increase muscling. Later on, we continued to use Simmental sires, and had no more issues with them than with Angus or Shorthorn sires... but we always picked bulls with reasonable CED/BW epds... we didn't necessarily go for low BW/high CED for adult cows, but no sense in chasing trouble with known or potential hard-calvers. [/QUOTE]
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