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<blockquote data-quote="RDFF" data-source="post: 1678548" data-attributes="member: 39018"><p>We can't "argue" anyone into church, anymore than we can keep them "in church" (meaning strong in faith and knowledge of God's Word) by "hugging them in". We CAN'T "make a decision for Christ" either... we are DEAD... literally DEAD in our trespasses and sins. A dead man can do NOTHING, can't even be an active player in his conversion. That's ALL done <u>by God</u> through the hearing of the Word... the gospel message of forgiveness through Christ. Preach the gospel faithfully, which absolutely also involves the preaching of the law faithfully as well, so we can see clearly our need for forgiveness, and recognize our eternally lost, and wholly corrupt state. The Holy Spirit then works in us sinners, through that Word, CREATING faith where there was nothing but rejection of God and His salvation.</p><p></p><p>Yes, we need to be prepared to give a reason for the hope that lies within us... (forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life through Jesus) 1 Peter 3:15. And we need to answer those who teach "false doctrine" with "proof" of that from the Word... false doctrines like, "What someone else does shouldn't matter to me, it's none of my business", ... or "judge not, that you be not judged" being misused. If that's what you mean by "arguing them into church", then there may be something to it. </p><p></p><p>Church is not supposed to be for our entertainment. It is supposed to be where we gather together with other children of God in perfect unity in the Word, where we glorify God together, and where we are strengthened through God serving us there in Word and Sacrament.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDFF, post: 1678548, member: 39018"] We can't "argue" anyone into church, anymore than we can keep them "in church" (meaning strong in faith and knowledge of God's Word) by "hugging them in". We CAN'T "make a decision for Christ" either... we are DEAD... literally DEAD in our trespasses and sins. A dead man can do NOTHING, can't even be an active player in his conversion. That's ALL done [U]by God[/U] through the hearing of the Word... the gospel message of forgiveness through Christ. Preach the gospel faithfully, which absolutely also involves the preaching of the law faithfully as well, so we can see clearly our need for forgiveness, and recognize our eternally lost, and wholly corrupt state. The Holy Spirit then works in us sinners, through that Word, CREATING faith where there was nothing but rejection of God and His salvation. Yes, we need to be prepared to give a reason for the hope that lies within us... (forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life through Jesus) 1 Peter 3:15. And we need to answer those who teach "false doctrine" with "proof" of that from the Word... false doctrines like, "What someone else does shouldn't matter to me, it's none of my business", ... or "judge not, that you be not judged" being misused. If that's what you mean by "arguing them into church", then there may be something to it. Church is not supposed to be for our entertainment. It is supposed to be where we gather together with other children of God in perfect unity in the Word, where we glorify God together, and where we are strengthened through God serving us there in Word and Sacrament. [/QUOTE]
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