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<blockquote data-quote="TR" data-source="post: 1060341" data-attributes="member: 22"><p>Gosh, yeh, I thought I did mention that I thought the abscess was a result of a snake bite mostly because it started as a real rubbery/leathery/fluidy kind of look under his jaw. LIKE bottle jaw, but not. We had another cow get bit, and a couple of dogs around here, and they had that same soft look to them. Its hard to explain. Its tissue swelling, but not puffed up to where its hard...make sense? Just a soft, fluidy, rubbery sort of look to them. In any case, I watched it for a week or so. Dun's "Benign Neglect", and when it finally localized into an abscess, I jumped into action. Now, that abscess isn't quite behaving like any abscess I've seen either. It drained, and didn't have any connected pockets that either the Vet or I found, but as I was treating it, he pulled his head back against the head gate, and another pocket opened up above the one we drained. The abscess swelling has never really gone down, and I hadn't come out with any pus when taking a needle to it. Now, this week, the upper one has opened up in two additional places. They are not deep like the bottom one was. Like I said, my original thought was snake bite, but you know with calves, it could be anything, so I've not harped on that point. Now, like redcowsrule33 says, it seems that every time his immune system is challenged, it crashes. I've heard that can be a side effect of snake bite. </p><p></p><p>I haven't a clue what kind of snake it was. We have a deep creek running through the middle of our property, so I've seen them all out here. Rattlers, Cottonmouths and Copperheads, not to mention rat snakes and king snakes....red and green racers too. </p><p></p><p>I guess you can't rule out BVD-PI, but we run a closed herd and the neighbors do too. I'm guessing that if he tested positive, we'd need to test the remainder of the herd. But everyone is vaccinated....2X/year, so really think BVD-PI? The pneumonia they've been getting is viral in that they never develop the bacterial, yellow/green snots. Clear mucous sometimes, but mostly I've detected it when I see them panting and by then, its almost too late. Ya pull them up and sometimes you can hear them breathe, and sometimes it takes a stethoscope to hear the pneumonia. They always have temps, and high ones too. Like I said, now the calves just get Enforce-3 and Bovi-Serum antibodies when they hit the ground. Much easier preventing than trying to cure. This particular calf was the one that set that protocol in motion, so with him we treated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TR, post: 1060341, member: 22"] Gosh, yeh, I thought I did mention that I thought the abscess was a result of a snake bite mostly because it started as a real rubbery/leathery/fluidy kind of look under his jaw. LIKE bottle jaw, but not. We had another cow get bit, and a couple of dogs around here, and they had that same soft look to them. Its hard to explain. Its tissue swelling, but not puffed up to where its hard...make sense? Just a soft, fluidy, rubbery sort of look to them. In any case, I watched it for a week or so. Dun's "Benign Neglect", and when it finally localized into an abscess, I jumped into action. Now, that abscess isn't quite behaving like any abscess I've seen either. It drained, and didn't have any connected pockets that either the Vet or I found, but as I was treating it, he pulled his head back against the head gate, and another pocket opened up above the one we drained. The abscess swelling has never really gone down, and I hadn't come out with any pus when taking a needle to it. Now, this week, the upper one has opened up in two additional places. They are not deep like the bottom one was. Like I said, my original thought was snake bite, but you know with calves, it could be anything, so I've not harped on that point. Now, like redcowsrule33 says, it seems that every time his immune system is challenged, it crashes. I've heard that can be a side effect of snake bite. I haven't a clue what kind of snake it was. We have a deep creek running through the middle of our property, so I've seen them all out here. Rattlers, Cottonmouths and Copperheads, not to mention rat snakes and king snakes....red and green racers too. I guess you can't rule out BVD-PI, but we run a closed herd and the neighbors do too. I'm guessing that if he tested positive, we'd need to test the remainder of the herd. But everyone is vaccinated....2X/year, so really think BVD-PI? The pneumonia they've been getting is viral in that they never develop the bacterial, yellow/green snots. Clear mucous sometimes, but mostly I've detected it when I see them panting and by then, its almost too late. Ya pull them up and sometimes you can hear them breathe, and sometimes it takes a stethoscope to hear the pneumonia. They always have temps, and high ones too. Like I said, now the calves just get Enforce-3 and Bovi-Serum antibodies when they hit the ground. Much easier preventing than trying to cure. This particular calf was the one that set that protocol in motion, so with him we treated. [/QUOTE]
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