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<blockquote data-quote="milkmaid" data-source="post: 492200" data-attributes="member: 852"><p>Depends how good the vet is or even if he's a large animal vet if he'd even think of DAs. Besides, DAs are a relatively uncommon occurance with beef cattle, so it may not have even crossed his mind. A stethoscope placed in the area of the flank or last rib on the left side will help detect most LDAs (occasionally you may have a RDA which is much more serious and would be found on the right side). You're right, flicking with a finger near the stethoscope will produce a characteristic "ping" - similar to flicking a pop can - if the abomasum has flipped. It's actually harder to hear the difference between normal and abnormal than one would think, but you've got a pretty good chance of making the right guess visually if you have a fresh cow off feed that has no temperature, no unusual appetite (a good sign of ketosis), and doesn't act "sick" yet won't eat.</p><p></p><p>Ketotic cows... I've never had good luck with the "breath test;" I simply cannot smell that sweet odor that's supposedly characteristic of ketosis.</p><p></p><p>I'd leave the calf with her. If you pull the calf she will totally quit producing milk and may dry herself completely up by the time you have the problem fixed. Supplement the calf, but leave it with her, and she'll have a good chance of coming back into milk.</p><p></p><p>Last thought for this post... if your vet is so clueless as to not even check for a DA, you may be better off to ship the cow than to pay him to try to correct an LDA, if that truly is what she has. Vets who can do a good job fixing a DA without the cow relapsing at some point, are hard to find.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="milkmaid, post: 492200, member: 852"] Depends how good the vet is or even if he's a large animal vet if he'd even think of DAs. Besides, DAs are a relatively uncommon occurance with beef cattle, so it may not have even crossed his mind. A stethoscope placed in the area of the flank or last rib on the left side will help detect most LDAs (occasionally you may have a RDA which is much more serious and would be found on the right side). You're right, flicking with a finger near the stethoscope will produce a characteristic "ping" - similar to flicking a pop can - if the abomasum has flipped. It's actually harder to hear the difference between normal and abnormal than one would think, but you've got a pretty good chance of making the right guess visually if you have a fresh cow off feed that has no temperature, no unusual appetite (a good sign of ketosis), and doesn't act "sick" yet won't eat. Ketotic cows... I've never had good luck with the "breath test;" I simply cannot smell that sweet odor that's supposedly characteristic of ketosis. I'd leave the calf with her. If you pull the calf she will totally quit producing milk and may dry herself completely up by the time you have the problem fixed. Supplement the calf, but leave it with her, and she'll have a good chance of coming back into milk. Last thought for this post... if your vet is so clueless as to not even check for a DA, you may be better off to ship the cow than to pay him to try to correct an LDA, if that truly is what she has. Vets who can do a good job fixing a DA without the cow relapsing at some point, are hard to find. [/QUOTE]
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