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<blockquote data-quote="js1234" data-source="post: 1043499" data-attributes="member: 17596"><p>In our operation, we absolutely keep track both in the barns and on the video. FWIW, weaned needs to be 30 days or more, 45 is better. If under 30 days, I'd rather just have a good bawler with 2 rounds of shots. On the video as an example, they have to fit one of the 2 categories above. We do not buy bawling calves without the second round of shots off the video, period. At the barns during the runs, we will buy "basic vacc" calves but only $5 or more behind their 2 shot counterparts. They are yarded and commingled with other basic vacc calves and we straighten them out in a grow yard before going to grass or feed. Due to this expense, we only will buy them cheaper. As far as the honor system goes, for the most part it works. I believe that in general people do their best to do what they say. That said, cattle that don't hold up their end of the bargain from a health or performance standpoint are never purchased again, at any price. If truly misrepresented, I'm not shy about sharing that info with my peers and if on the video, their rep or the auctioneer at the barn. Last week at the Superior Video as an example, I bought right at 2,100 head of calves for fall delivery, I'll buy more this week at the Western sale in Wyoming. When the catalogue comes, we go through and mark the lots that we have had before and performed well. We also mark the cattle that were "weaned" and showed up walking the fence or had unacceptable health issues etc. If in the first, I'll bang away extra hard to own them again, if in the second, I won't even bid and if I see a friend competing I'll give them the thumbs down. Why let someone else unknowingly buy that headache? I also believe reputation is a huge component. There are sets of cattle both at the barn and on the video that come from ranches that are reputation outfits. One can see in the sale results that said reputation can carry the cattle a long ways. Of course at barns we'll buy small sets to finish up etc. No history though as far as health etc, they have to be bought even $10-$15 cheaper yet. I assume these cattle will be a headache and they go into a group with other calves of unknown origin and are treated as "just inventory", no trying to hit special programs or markets etc. I'm sure there are lots of guys that do things differently, and if it makes them money, it certainly isn't wrong, but we buy a few and that's how we do it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="js1234, post: 1043499, member: 17596"] In our operation, we absolutely keep track both in the barns and on the video. FWIW, weaned needs to be 30 days or more, 45 is better. If under 30 days, I'd rather just have a good bawler with 2 rounds of shots. On the video as an example, they have to fit one of the 2 categories above. We do not buy bawling calves without the second round of shots off the video, period. At the barns during the runs, we will buy "basic vacc" calves but only $5 or more behind their 2 shot counterparts. They are yarded and commingled with other basic vacc calves and we straighten them out in a grow yard before going to grass or feed. Due to this expense, we only will buy them cheaper. As far as the honor system goes, for the most part it works. I believe that in general people do their best to do what they say. That said, cattle that don't hold up their end of the bargain from a health or performance standpoint are never purchased again, at any price. If truly misrepresented, I'm not shy about sharing that info with my peers and if on the video, their rep or the auctioneer at the barn. Last week at the Superior Video as an example, I bought right at 2,100 head of calves for fall delivery, I'll buy more this week at the Western sale in Wyoming. When the catalogue comes, we go through and mark the lots that we have had before and performed well. We also mark the cattle that were "weaned" and showed up walking the fence or had unacceptable health issues etc. If in the first, I'll bang away extra hard to own them again, if in the second, I won't even bid and if I see a friend competing I'll give them the thumbs down. Why let someone else unknowingly buy that headache? I also believe reputation is a huge component. There are sets of cattle both at the barn and on the video that come from ranches that are reputation outfits. One can see in the sale results that said reputation can carry the cattle a long ways. Of course at barns we'll buy small sets to finish up etc. No history though as far as health etc, they have to be bought even $10-$15 cheaper yet. I assume these cattle will be a headache and they go into a group with other calves of unknown origin and are treated as "just inventory", no trying to hit special programs or markets etc. I'm sure there are lots of guys that do things differently, and if it makes them money, it certainly isn't wrong, but we buy a few and that's how we do it. [/QUOTE]
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