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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1661514" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>[USER=24816]@Ky hills[/USER], these cows you had to cull because of disposition... were they always difficult or just when they had a calf? Reading an article about the man that started breeding the Black Herefords, he says "Herefords are the most docile of the beef breeds, and and great mommas. Angus cows can be <em>too </em>good a momma when it comes to their new calves. It is our intention to select for the docility of the Hereford, in this new breed." I have found this to be true with even pure Angus. They can get in your pocket in a hurry when they have a new calf on the ground. I have seen this trait in Brangus, too, which can be more aggressive with their new claves than say a Braford can. Chianina are one of the oldest breeds, tracing back at least 2200 years to Ancient Roman times. Obviously, these cows have produced adequate milk to feed these giant calves for over 2000 years, with relatively small udders. I wouldn't think that Angus blood would do anything to suppress milk, or could it? The Chi-Angus I have seen, seemed to have as big or bigger udders than the Chianina, and at least as big as Angus and other Angus crosses. Those Chianina x Brahma cows I had, raised those big ole Charolais calves with plenty of milk. </p><p></p><p>The Chi-Holsteins and the Chi-Brahmas were as docile and easy to handle as any other cows I have had. The man's Chianina bull was as halter-broke as a show steer, but he did collect him and AI-ed everything, since he was 3500 lbs, so the bull was handled a lot. The Chi-Angus bull I used to breed some of the Chi-Holstein cows with, was no more trouble than the Brangus bulls were. Those cows you had to cull for milking or disposition faults, were they more Angus looking? Or were they the taller, leggier and more lean ones?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1661514, member: 40587"] [USER=24816]@Ky hills[/USER], these cows you had to cull because of disposition... were they always difficult or just when they had a calf? Reading an article about the man that started breeding the Black Herefords, he says "Herefords are the most docile of the beef breeds, and and great mommas. Angus cows can be [I]too [/I]good a momma when it comes to their new calves. It is our intention to select for the docility of the Hereford, in this new breed." I have found this to be true with even pure Angus. They can get in your pocket in a hurry when they have a new calf on the ground. I have seen this trait in Brangus, too, which can be more aggressive with their new claves than say a Braford can. Chianina are one of the oldest breeds, tracing back at least 2200 years to Ancient Roman times. Obviously, these cows have produced adequate milk to feed these giant calves for over 2000 years, with relatively small udders. I wouldn't think that Angus blood would do anything to suppress milk, or could it? The Chi-Angus I have seen, seemed to have as big or bigger udders than the Chianina, and at least as big as Angus and other Angus crosses. Those Chianina x Brahma cows I had, raised those big ole Charolais calves with plenty of milk. The Chi-Holsteins and the Chi-Brahmas were as docile and easy to handle as any other cows I have had. The man's Chianina bull was as halter-broke as a show steer, but he did collect him and AI-ed everything, since he was 3500 lbs, so the bull was handled a lot. The Chi-Angus bull I used to breed some of the Chi-Holstein cows with, was no more trouble than the Brangus bulls were. Those cows you had to cull for milking or disposition faults, were they more Angus looking? Or were they the taller, leggier and more lean ones? [/QUOTE]
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