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Santa Gertrudis vs. 3/8-5/8 Brahma/Shorthorn.
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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1259837" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>I don't know where the black came from in ol' 'Flop' the black Beefmaster in my clients' herd... probably an Angus, Brangus, or just old black commercial cow multiple generations back... but she had at least 3 or 4 generations of BM breeding behind her, and, if memory serves correctly, was 'U' classified by the BBU evaluators. </p><p>I know, some here will argue that a black-coated Simmental(Gelbvieh, Limousin, Braunvieh, etc.) with an Angus or Holstein cow 8 or more generations back in their pedigree is just a crossbred...but breeds with open herdbooks have moved on, and decided to accept high percentage animals as purebreds. It's not good or bad...it's just what it is, and the cattle never give it a thought...it's a human prejudicial construct.</p><p></p><p>Agree, however, that 'recreation' of Gerts or BM by doing 'cookbook' breeding to reach 3/5BR-5/8SH or 50BR/25SH/25HH will not necessarily result in the same creature that the King Ranch & Lasater programs created. There was selection for more than just a certain percentage of breed makeup in the development of those breeds. </p><p>By the same token, the 'blackening' of the Continental breeds also brought along more than just black hide...along the way, there was also selection for easier calving, more moderate frame size, better marbling, greater tenderness, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1259837, member: 12607"] I don't know where the black came from in ol' 'Flop' the black Beefmaster in my clients' herd... probably an Angus, Brangus, or just old black commercial cow multiple generations back... but she had at least 3 or 4 generations of BM breeding behind her, and, if memory serves correctly, was 'U' classified by the BBU evaluators. I know, some here will argue that a black-coated Simmental(Gelbvieh, Limousin, Braunvieh, etc.) with an Angus or Holstein cow 8 or more generations back in their pedigree is just a crossbred...but breeds with open herdbooks have moved on, and decided to accept high percentage animals as purebreds. It's not good or bad...it's just what it is, and the cattle never give it a thought...it's a human prejudicial construct. Agree, however, that 'recreation' of Gerts or BM by doing 'cookbook' breeding to reach 3/5BR-5/8SH or 50BR/25SH/25HH will not necessarily result in the same creature that the King Ranch & Lasater programs created. There was selection for more than just a certain percentage of breed makeup in the development of those breeds. By the same token, the 'blackening' of the Continental breeds also brought along more than just black hide...along the way, there was also selection for easier calving, more moderate frame size, better marbling, greater tenderness, etc. [/QUOTE]
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