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<blockquote data-quote="Joy of Texas" data-source="post: 637760" data-attributes="member: 7319"><p>If it's like our sale barn, they probably hit him with the hot shock as you were backing up just to get him ready. Went to the sale Monday and I don't think a single animal came through that didn't get hit with the hot shock as they opened the door to the ring. If we couldn't handle our animals better than that, I'd just quit. No wonder calves will shrink 8-10% from the time they leave the farm.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>thats what pi$$es me off BIG TIME.</p><p>i spent enough time around my cattle so they are gentle.</p><p> not pets but easy to handle and work without a problem.</p><p>then some wannabe cowboy goat roper at the sale barn wants to play cowboy and abuses all the cattle that he come in contact with, chasing them around with his horse, practicing his cutting, swing his rope and etc.</p><p>cause he thinks he's a real cowboy now.</p><p></p><p>if i knew of a better way to sell my calves that would not cause stress (for that matter i buy stocker calves and stress related illness is a real problem for me) </p><p>i'd never use the sale barn again.</p><p>i quit using one sale barn for that very reason, but the one i use now really aint no better.[/quote]</p><p> I understand what you are saying. Our cows are the same way. Not pets ,but very gentle. We never use a hot shot on any of our calves or cows. It's hard bringing home a calf from the sale barn. They have been thru so much . Takened away from their mama's,chased by a bunch of yahoos yelling screaming and zapping 'em. It takes me a few days but some will calm down. Some will never calm back down,those I will take back and resale</p><p> Most of the time any time you work cattle or load them that starts their stress level to go up. I do agree however some sale barns let their workers go over board with the hot shots. The one sale I go to on mondays got a bunch of new yahoos working. They will shock them coming and going which is insane. Yes I have seen some fairly mean cows that probably needs it. But what tears me up is when of these old old cows comes thru and they just keep hitting her. Then by some chance she'll go down. Well,idiots that's their fault. All because the poor ol thing doesn't move fast enough.</p><p> I like to watch man that has been at the Karnes City sale barn. All he uses is a whip and his voice. That's it and he is amazing with them. I stand there alot and just watch him bring up.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Joy of Texas, post: 637760, member: 7319"] If it's like our sale barn, they probably hit him with the hot shock as you were backing up just to get him ready. Went to the sale Monday and I don't think a single animal came through that didn't get hit with the hot shock as they opened the door to the ring. If we couldn't handle our animals better than that, I'd just quit. No wonder calves will shrink 8-10% from the time they leave the farm.[/quote] thats what pi$$es me off BIG TIME. i spent enough time around my cattle so they are gentle. not pets but easy to handle and work without a problem. then some wannabe cowboy goat roper at the sale barn wants to play cowboy and abuses all the cattle that he come in contact with, chasing them around with his horse, practicing his cutting, swing his rope and etc. cause he thinks he's a real cowboy now. if i knew of a better way to sell my calves that would not cause stress (for that matter i buy stocker calves and stress related illness is a real problem for me) i'd never use the sale barn again. i quit using one sale barn for that very reason, but the one i use now really aint no better.[/quote] I understand what you are saying. Our cows are the same way. Not pets ,but very gentle. We never use a hot shot on any of our calves or cows. It's hard bringing home a calf from the sale barn. They have been thru so much . Takened away from their mama's,chased by a bunch of yahoos yelling screaming and zapping 'em. It takes me a few days but some will calm down. Some will never calm back down,those I will take back and resale Most of the time any time you work cattle or load them that starts their stress level to go up. I do agree however some sale barns let their workers go over board with the hot shots. The one sale I go to on mondays got a bunch of new yahoos working. They will shock them coming and going which is insane. Yes I have seen some fairly mean cows that probably needs it. But what tears me up is when of these old old cows comes thru and they just keep hitting her. Then by some chance she'll go down. Well,idiots that's their fault. All because the poor ol thing doesn't move fast enough. I like to watch man that has been at the Karnes City sale barn. All he uses is a whip and his voice. That's it and he is amazing with them. I stand there alot and just watch him bring up. [/QUOTE]
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