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<blockquote data-quote="branxchar&amp;amp;charx" data-source="post: 1718689" data-attributes="member: 436"><p>If we're going to blame the West for Russia's shenanigans, it did not start in 2014. Try the previous decade when former Russian territory started to become part of NATO and the EU.</p><p>Anyway, the U.S. is not going to war over Kiev just like it did not go to war over Tsibili in '08. As someone else mentioned, alota noise, some money and some guns is all the U.S. n nato will muster. Nato is an irrelevant institution that is only being kept alive out of habit. A Frenchman or Spaniard is not going to mobilize to save a Ukrainian from a Russian.</p><p>The countries responses need to watch from this is mainly Poland and Romania. If russia does a full scale invasion of Ukraine, then u will start seeing some interesting attitudes from the former Eastern Block. Will Poland mobilize and retake the Lvov region if Russia decides to link up to Transnistria? Though the actual red line for the U.S. would be if Russia attacked Warsaw and Bucharest diectly, very unlikely. Baltic states are up in the air though Estonia is making itself "more trouble than its worth" which is a good thing for them. Most of this is Russia jockeying for a better geopolitical position over Ukraine and Putin is hoping brandon will be the first to blink.</p><p>Interesting side note, Warsaw earlier in the year conducted war games with an "aggressive eastern power." It should have lasted weeks. Warsaw surrendered in four days. Now they want to double the size of their army and are being more aggressive with modernizing their armed forces.</p><p></p><p>But original question, yes i think there would be a buying opportunity if Russia launched a large scale offensive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="branxchar&charx, post: 1718689, member: 436"] If we're going to blame the West for Russia's shenanigans, it did not start in 2014. Try the previous decade when former Russian territory started to become part of NATO and the EU. Anyway, the U.S. is not going to war over Kiev just like it did not go to war over Tsibili in '08. As someone else mentioned, alota noise, some money and some guns is all the U.S. n nato will muster. Nato is an irrelevant institution that is only being kept alive out of habit. A Frenchman or Spaniard is not going to mobilize to save a Ukrainian from a Russian. The countries responses need to watch from this is mainly Poland and Romania. If russia does a full scale invasion of Ukraine, then u will start seeing some interesting attitudes from the former Eastern Block. Will Poland mobilize and retake the Lvov region if Russia decides to link up to Transnistria? Though the actual red line for the U.S. would be if Russia attacked Warsaw and Bucharest diectly, very unlikely. Baltic states are up in the air though Estonia is making itself "more trouble than its worth" which is a good thing for them. Most of this is Russia jockeying for a better geopolitical position over Ukraine and Putin is hoping brandon will be the first to blink. Interesting side note, Warsaw earlier in the year conducted war games with an "aggressive eastern power." It should have lasted weeks. Warsaw surrendered in four days. Now they want to double the size of their army and are being more aggressive with modernizing their armed forces. But original question, yes i think there would be a buying opportunity if Russia launched a large scale offensive. [/QUOTE]
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