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<blockquote data-quote="Bez+" data-source="post: 717670" data-attributes="member: 6797"><p>Jammed for time but looked at the pic - that is a poor spear setup IMO - although it is very commonly used.</p><p></p><p>SRBeef is bang on - quality and setup are everything.</p><p></p><p>I use a single spear mostly - attached to the centre of the bottom bar of the quick attach for single bale feeding.</p><p></p><p>Yours is rigged to sit on the top bar and gives you a lot less verticle height.</p><p></p><p>My spear is different yet similar in the quality as suggested by SRBeef - however it is squared steel about 1.75 or thereabouts per side - sorry cannot remember - on each side and about 30 inches long - wish I had one here to give you the actual length - and made even stronger by light fluting. You do not need to go with a spear that is overly long. In my opinion a 48 inch spear is far too long. I will admit it would be a fine spear though - just not right for me.</p><p></p><p>I think I paid 1-200 bucks for the spears - or maybe for each of them - cannot remember - but I do remember thinking it was a lot of money at the time - I actually own three of them - and I bought them about 12 years ago. They taper about halfway out from the bracket to the point - fluting runs about 3/4's of the way to the point - maybe a bit further.</p><p></p><p>The spears actually fit into form fitted holes on the bottom bar of the quick attach and I am very particular about cleaning them out before I mount the spear(s) in new holes if I reconfigure for different bale types or loads. The threads for mounting the spears are always well cleaned before I tighten them to ensure there is no rotation of the spear in the mount over time - this prevents bending.</p><p></p><p>I usually only use one as stated in a centre bottom mount - but do use all three when moving big squares - one on each outside corner and one in the middle - all on the bottom of the quick attach - I usually move the square bales three at a time stacked - I can go to four high but it is rough when travelling across the field and is tough on the front end of the tractor - I have a safety bracket that I made to prevent the top one from rolling back down the loader into me and the cab.</p><p></p><p>I always mount the spears so they look like they are diamond shaped when looking from the point to the loader - in other words - looking at the spear head on. This makes each spear incredibly strong.</p><p></p><p>I can take the loader - set the single spear on a rock about half way down the length of the spear and lift the front wheels of the tractor off the ground - 5250 Case front wheel assist with cab - a heavy machine with no bend in the spear. </p><p></p><p>If I take my single spear and remove it - and place two spears on the quick attach - one on each outside corner and on the bottom bar of the quick attach - and using that home made safety bracket to prevent the top bale rolling back on me while in the cab - I can lift three 5 foot diametre bales in two with one on top configuration - another hefty load.</p><p></p><p>Nothing bends - I figure it is the fluting combined with the excellent quality steel and the way I mount them on the loader. Those spears are quite narrow - I can easily circle them with my hand with lots of finger room left over.</p><p></p><p>Even if they did slightly bend a bit I would simply loosen the retaining nut and rotate them 180 degrees and they would bend back!</p><p></p><p>Not cheap to buy but you get what you pay for - it is a one time purchase. Perhaps the fluting also helps with bale release. Buy the best and forget the rest - there are a lot of crappy setups out there.</p><p></p><p>Sorry - got to go - best to you</p><p></p><p>Bez+</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bez+, post: 717670, member: 6797"] Jammed for time but looked at the pic - that is a poor spear setup IMO - although it is very commonly used. SRBeef is bang on - quality and setup are everything. I use a single spear mostly - attached to the centre of the bottom bar of the quick attach for single bale feeding. Yours is rigged to sit on the top bar and gives you a lot less verticle height. My spear is different yet similar in the quality as suggested by SRBeef - however it is squared steel about 1.75 or thereabouts per side - sorry cannot remember - on each side and about 30 inches long - wish I had one here to give you the actual length - and made even stronger by light fluting. You do not need to go with a spear that is overly long. In my opinion a 48 inch spear is far too long. I will admit it would be a fine spear though - just not right for me. I think I paid 1-200 bucks for the spears - or maybe for each of them - cannot remember - but I do remember thinking it was a lot of money at the time - I actually own three of them - and I bought them about 12 years ago. They taper about halfway out from the bracket to the point - fluting runs about 3/4's of the way to the point - maybe a bit further. The spears actually fit into form fitted holes on the bottom bar of the quick attach and I am very particular about cleaning them out before I mount the spear(s) in new holes if I reconfigure for different bale types or loads. The threads for mounting the spears are always well cleaned before I tighten them to ensure there is no rotation of the spear in the mount over time - this prevents bending. I usually only use one as stated in a centre bottom mount - but do use all three when moving big squares - one on each outside corner and one in the middle - all on the bottom of the quick attach - I usually move the square bales three at a time stacked - I can go to four high but it is rough when travelling across the field and is tough on the front end of the tractor - I have a safety bracket that I made to prevent the top one from rolling back down the loader into me and the cab. I always mount the spears so they look like they are diamond shaped when looking from the point to the loader - in other words - looking at the spear head on. This makes each spear incredibly strong. I can take the loader - set the single spear on a rock about half way down the length of the spear and lift the front wheels of the tractor off the ground - 5250 Case front wheel assist with cab - a heavy machine with no bend in the spear. If I take my single spear and remove it - and place two spears on the quick attach - one on each outside corner and on the bottom bar of the quick attach - and using that home made safety bracket to prevent the top bale rolling back on me while in the cab - I can lift three 5 foot diametre bales in two with one on top configuration - another hefty load. Nothing bends - I figure it is the fluting combined with the excellent quality steel and the way I mount them on the loader. Those spears are quite narrow - I can easily circle them with my hand with lots of finger room left over. Even if they did slightly bend a bit I would simply loosen the retaining nut and rotate them 180 degrees and they would bend back! Not cheap to buy but you get what you pay for - it is a one time purchase. Perhaps the fluting also helps with bale release. Buy the best and forget the rest - there are a lot of crappy setups out there. Sorry - got to go - best to you Bez+ [/QUOTE]
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