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<blockquote data-quote="SaddleSore" data-source="post: 711646" data-attributes="member: 13490"><p>I don't care if a Vermeer can make a 5X6 bale that weighs 5000#, if the bales are too dense, cattle will have a hard time getting the hay out of the bale.</p><p></p><p>There's alot of things that affect bale density; </p><p>(1) size of the windrow (big windrows fill up a bale chamber faster, giving the baler less time to pack the bale), </p><p>(2) ground speed (driving fast has the same effect as big windrows), </p><p>(3) the type of hay (fescue, alfalfa, orchard grass, etc), </p><p>(4) moisture content of the hay, </p><p>(5) engine RPM (higher engine speed & a low ground speed will spin the bale in the chamber more times before the bale is finished, packing the bale tighter) & </p><p>(6) baler adjustments.</p><p></p><p>My point is, you have to make your windrows fairly uniform, choose a gear and RPM that's comfortable for you and stick with it, then adjust your baler to make the bale you want.</p><p></p><p>My uncle (custom roller) runs a late model Vermeer, drives at a snails pace with the tractor almost idling in huge windrows and I don't want him rolling any for me. I'm not blaming the baler, I know he's doing what makes him money, making 15 rolls in a field that would maybe make 13-14 rolls if I were to roll it with my Deere.</p><p></p><p>I do very little custom work and have my baler set up to make large "firm" rolls, this way I have fewer rolls to move out of the field (and for the bottoms to rot off), use less twine, spend less time sitting still while the baler ties & have to feed less often. Also, I don't change the setting on my baler when I do roll for someone else (not saying uncle a-hole does), they get the same bale (size & density) I make for myself.</p><p></p><p>I'm on my 2nd Deere in about 26 yrs of rolling hay (1st one burnt in a barn fire) with minimal problems. If, for any reason, I had to get another baler tomorrow, you can bet your last $ it would be green. I wouldn't even consider another brand!!!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SaddleSore, post: 711646, member: 13490"] I don't care if a Vermeer can make a 5X6 bale that weighs 5000#, if the bales are too dense, cattle will have a hard time getting the hay out of the bale. There's alot of things that affect bale density; (1) size of the windrow (big windrows fill up a bale chamber faster, giving the baler less time to pack the bale), (2) ground speed (driving fast has the same effect as big windrows), (3) the type of hay (fescue, alfalfa, orchard grass, etc), (4) moisture content of the hay, (5) engine RPM (higher engine speed & a low ground speed will spin the bale in the chamber more times before the bale is finished, packing the bale tighter) & (6) baler adjustments. My point is, you have to make your windrows fairly uniform, choose a gear and RPM that's comfortable for you and stick with it, then adjust your baler to make the bale you want. My uncle (custom roller) runs a late model Vermeer, drives at a snails pace with the tractor almost idling in huge windrows and I don't want him rolling any for me. I'm not blaming the baler, I know he's doing what makes him money, making 15 rolls in a field that would maybe make 13-14 rolls if I were to roll it with my Deere. I do very little custom work and have my baler set up to make large "firm" rolls, this way I have fewer rolls to move out of the field (and for the bottoms to rot off), use less twine, spend less time sitting still while the baler ties & have to feed less often. Also, I don't change the setting on my baler when I do roll for someone else (not saying uncle a-hole does), they get the same bale (size & density) I make for myself. I'm on my 2nd Deere in about 26 yrs of rolling hay (1st one burnt in a barn fire) with minimal problems. If, for any reason, I had to get another baler tomorrow, you can bet your last $ it would be green. I wouldn't even consider another brand!!!!! [/QUOTE]
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