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<blockquote data-quote="Bez+" data-source="post: 417495" data-attributes="member: 6797"><p>I use this:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.horstwelding.com/wagon_items.php?id=19" target="_blank">http://www.horstwelding.com/wagon_items.php?id=19</a></p><p></p><p>Model 285 with 22 foot dual 6"x 4" reaches. Throw the stock tires away and replace them with the largest used cement truck front tires you can find - expensive - but they are a far better tire than an ag tire for this application. Get 5 - you will need a spare someday.</p><p></p><p>And I then put a 30 foot long x 8.5 feet wide steel hay deck on it. Round bale deck with bar spacing at 18".</p><p></p><p>I can carry 22 five foot round bales or 36 big squares at 8 foot long - and trust me that is a big load - overhangs about a foot and a bit off the front and back of the deck.</p><p></p><p>The wagon tongue is about 11 feet long and too heavy to screw around with so I put a double spring assist on it - so even a 6 years old girl can pick it up.</p><p></p><p>Total cost for this rig - $5,500 Canuckle bucks.</p><p></p><p>Pull it empty at 60 miles per hour and it tracks true.</p><p></p><p>Do not have anything that can reach those speeds when it is loaded - generally I haul at about 15 mph max.</p><p></p><p>Yeah you need a front end loader - but the big thing is - you need to haul numbers - or hauling costs kill you.</p><p></p><p>I usually have another hay deck at my disposal - it is 30 feet long and runs on this gear:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.horstwelding.com/wagon_items.php?id=12" target="_blank">http://www.horstwelding.com/wagon_items.php?id=12</a></p><p></p><p>Model 505 with 6 wheels.</p><p></p><p>I do not like the six wheel set up - not as manoeuvrable in tight spots.</p><p></p><p>A bit heavier wagon - with the same deck as mine in size - but a steel mesh deck top. I welded kickers on the front and back for the owner - and I use it whenever it is available.</p><p></p><p>Tuck the two wagons together and I trot down the road with 72 - 8 foot big squares behind me. Or 44 - 5 foot round bales.</p><p></p><p>Including tractor my rig runs about 100 feet long - maybe a bit more with the loader equipped with a spear.</p><p></p><p>Nobody gets in my way!! :lol: </p><p></p><p>Usually pull it with a Case IH 5250 4WD and loader.</p><p></p><p>Alan - do not know how many bales you need - but never buy to fit your operations today - unless you can guarantee you will not expand. Nothing worse than having to trade up or buy another. <u>If it fits the budget </u>- buy a little bigger than you need. Less wear and tear and less stress on the equipment.</p><p></p><p>Have fun.</p><p></p><p>Easiest way if you do not want to spend the money on capital expenditures - hire it done - one time expense and you are finished.</p><p></p><p>Good luck and regards.</p><p></p><p>Bez+</p><p></p><p>Additional comments:</p><p></p><p>Alan - forget that rig - you are not hauling a big enough load. 20 miles? 40 round trip. For 6 bales? Buying 120 bales.</p><p></p><p>The truck rig looks pretty unstable to me - in fact I believe it to be over loaded in the pic.</p><p></p><p>You wanna' drive about 20 round trips. 800 miles for bales? Forget it!!</p><p></p><p>You can hire a tractor trailer unit and still make it pay if you factor in wear and tear on your own rig.</p><p></p><p>For distances like this - haul big or hire it done - no two ways about it.</p><p></p><p>Regards</p><p></p><p>Bez+</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bez+, post: 417495, member: 6797"] I use this: [url=http://www.horstwelding.com/wagon_items.php?id=19]http://www.horstwelding.com/wagon_items.php?id=19[/url] Model 285 with 22 foot dual 6"x 4" reaches. Throw the stock tires away and replace them with the largest used cement truck front tires you can find - expensive - but they are a far better tire than an ag tire for this application. Get 5 - you will need a spare someday. And I then put a 30 foot long x 8.5 feet wide steel hay deck on it. Round bale deck with bar spacing at 18". I can carry 22 five foot round bales or 36 big squares at 8 foot long - and trust me that is a big load - overhangs about a foot and a bit off the front and back of the deck. The wagon tongue is about 11 feet long and too heavy to screw around with so I put a double spring assist on it - so even a 6 years old girl can pick it up. Total cost for this rig - $5,500 Canuckle bucks. Pull it empty at 60 miles per hour and it tracks true. Do not have anything that can reach those speeds when it is loaded - generally I haul at about 15 mph max. Yeah you need a front end loader - but the big thing is - you need to haul numbers - or hauling costs kill you. I usually have another hay deck at my disposal - it is 30 feet long and runs on this gear: [url=http://www.horstwelding.com/wagon_items.php?id=12]http://www.horstwelding.com/wagon_items.php?id=12[/url] Model 505 with 6 wheels. I do not like the six wheel set up - not as manoeuvrable in tight spots. A bit heavier wagon - with the same deck as mine in size - but a steel mesh deck top. I welded kickers on the front and back for the owner - and I use it whenever it is available. Tuck the two wagons together and I trot down the road with 72 - 8 foot big squares behind me. Or 44 - 5 foot round bales. Including tractor my rig runs about 100 feet long - maybe a bit more with the loader equipped with a spear. Nobody gets in my way!! :lol: Usually pull it with a Case IH 5250 4WD and loader. Alan - do not know how many bales you need - but never buy to fit your operations today - unless you can guarantee you will not expand. Nothing worse than having to trade up or buy another. [u]If it fits the budget [/u]- buy a little bigger than you need. Less wear and tear and less stress on the equipment. Have fun. Easiest way if you do not want to spend the money on capital expenditures - hire it done - one time expense and you are finished. Good luck and regards. Bez+ Additional comments: Alan - forget that rig - you are not hauling a big enough load. 20 miles? 40 round trip. For 6 bales? Buying 120 bales. The truck rig looks pretty unstable to me - in fact I believe it to be over loaded in the pic. You wanna' drive about 20 round trips. 800 miles for bales? Forget it!! You can hire a tractor trailer unit and still make it pay if you factor in wear and tear on your own rig. For distances like this - haul big or hire it done - no two ways about it. Regards Bez+ [/QUOTE]
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