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<blockquote data-quote="ez14." data-source="post: 1397380" data-attributes="member: 27084"><p>you are showing your socialism!</p><p></p><p>i have always thought highly of you CB but your supporting of theft and dishonesty is making that a bit harder!</p><p></p><p>have you ever watched "the men who built america"? i highly recommend it to anyone! watch that show and learn a little before telling me there was no opportunity for a better life for poor people in this country before the unions! there are several examples of men picking themselves up out of poverty to be very well off people! (without the dishonesty of a union)</p><p></p><p>and if i don't know anything about history where did the 5 day work week come from or the 8 hour days or $5 a day wages?</p><p></p><p>Henry Fords view on the union (i agree completely) </p><p></p><p>Labor unions</p><p>Ford was adamantly against labor unions. He explained his views on unions in Chapter 18 of My Life and Work.[33] He thought they were too heavily influenced by some leaders who, despite their ostensible good motives, would end up doing more harm than good for workers. Most wanted to restrict productivity as a means to foster employment, but Ford saw this as self-defeating because, in his view, productivity was necessary for any economic prosperity to exist.</p><p></p><p>He believed that productivity gains that obviated certain jobs would nevertheless stimulate the larger economy and thus grow new jobs elsewhere, whether within the same corporation or in others. Ford also believed that union leaders had a perverse incentive to foment perpetual socio-economic crisis as a way to maintain their own power. Meanwhile, he believed that smart managers had an incentive to do right by their workers, because doing so would maximize their own profits. Ford did acknowledge, however, that many managers were basically too bad at managing to understand this fact. But Ford believed that eventually, if good managers such as he could fend off the attacks of misguided people from both left and right (i.e., both socialists and bad-manager reactionaries), the good managers would create a socio-economic system wherein neither bad management nor bad unions could find enough support to continue existing.</p><p></p><p>i am not arguing the EXTREMELY bad working conditions or the lives lost to them! i am arguing against what you state as fact that theft was the only (and necessary) way for anything better</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez14., post: 1397380, member: 27084"] you are showing your socialism! i have always thought highly of you CB but your supporting of theft and dishonesty is making that a bit harder! have you ever watched "the men who built america"? i highly recommend it to anyone! watch that show and learn a little before telling me there was no opportunity for a better life for poor people in this country before the unions! there are several examples of men picking themselves up out of poverty to be very well off people! (without the dishonesty of a union) and if i don't know anything about history where did the 5 day work week come from or the 8 hour days or $5 a day wages? Henry Fords view on the union (i agree completely) Labor unions Ford was adamantly against labor unions. He explained his views on unions in Chapter 18 of My Life and Work.[33] He thought they were too heavily influenced by some leaders who, despite their ostensible good motives, would end up doing more harm than good for workers. Most wanted to restrict productivity as a means to foster employment, but Ford saw this as self-defeating because, in his view, productivity was necessary for any economic prosperity to exist. He believed that productivity gains that obviated certain jobs would nevertheless stimulate the larger economy and thus grow new jobs elsewhere, whether within the same corporation or in others. Ford also believed that union leaders had a perverse incentive to foment perpetual socio-economic crisis as a way to maintain their own power. Meanwhile, he believed that smart managers had an incentive to do right by their workers, because doing so would maximize their own profits. Ford did acknowledge, however, that many managers were basically too bad at managing to understand this fact. But Ford believed that eventually, if good managers such as he could fend off the attacks of misguided people from both left and right (i.e., both socialists and bad-manager reactionaries), the good managers would create a socio-economic system wherein neither bad management nor bad unions could find enough support to continue existing. i am not arguing the EXTREMELY bad working conditions or the lives lost to them! i am arguing against what you state as fact that theft was the only (and necessary) way for anything better [/QUOTE]
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