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<blockquote data-quote="boondocks" data-source="post: 1397218" data-attributes="member: 20599"><p>My 12 or 14 yo coal mining grandad couldn't move. Was feeding his 5 younger siblings.</p><p>"Moving" only works when there are better opportunities somewhere else. When the unions were trying to organize the mine fields, the mine owners collectively worked together to refuse them better wages, living conditions, or even rudimentary safety. If you tried to bargain for better pay, you were blackballed if not beaten or killed.</p><p>Let me ask the union-bashers and history-deniers this: have you seen/heard/read about the working conditions in Third World countries? ie, the buildings in Bangladesh that collapse; the working conditions so onerous that people at the Apple vendors' plants in China throw themselves off the balconies etc etc? No unions!</p><p>Do you really think it's in human nature to be good and kind to your workers, and the early US business owners were fair and equitable? My gosh, have you not read about the building of the Transcontinental Railroad, to take just one example? That whole "moving for a better job" thing didn't work out so well. The Irish workers wanted better wages, so the owners instead brought in shiploads of desperate Chinese workers, many of whom died on the job. Many of the workers were left unpaid when the railroad was completed. Meanwhile, the politicians and railroad owners got fat by doublebilling and bilking.</p><p>I really mean no disrepect, but some of y'all did crossword puzzles or played hangman during history class or something...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="boondocks, post: 1397218, member: 20599"] My 12 or 14 yo coal mining grandad couldn't move. Was feeding his 5 younger siblings. "Moving" only works when there are better opportunities somewhere else. When the unions were trying to organize the mine fields, the mine owners collectively worked together to refuse them better wages, living conditions, or even rudimentary safety. If you tried to bargain for better pay, you were blackballed if not beaten or killed. Let me ask the union-bashers and history-deniers this: have you seen/heard/read about the working conditions in Third World countries? ie, the buildings in Bangladesh that collapse; the working conditions so onerous that people at the Apple vendors' plants in China throw themselves off the balconies etc etc? No unions! Do you really think it's in human nature to be good and kind to your workers, and the early US business owners were fair and equitable? My gosh, have you not read about the building of the Transcontinental Railroad, to take just one example? That whole "moving for a better job" thing didn't work out so well. The Irish workers wanted better wages, so the owners instead brought in shiploads of desperate Chinese workers, many of whom died on the job. Many of the workers were left unpaid when the railroad was completed. Meanwhile, the politicians and railroad owners got fat by doublebilling and bilking. I really mean no disrepect, but some of y'all did crossword puzzles or played hangman during history class or something... [/QUOTE]
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