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<blockquote data-quote="boondocks" data-source="post: 1396773" data-attributes="member: 20599"><p>Wow you saw a different show than I did. I come from a long line of WV miners (and loggers). Before the unions came in, as the Mine Wars program shows,the miners were literally near-starving and tried to stick together to bargain for better wages. For daring to do so, they were hunted like animals by the police and military on the demand of the politicians, who were bought and sold by the mine owners.</p><p>You are looking at their options from a modern-day lens. They had no power, no assets, owned nothing but the clothes on their backs (if those). The mine in the next town over wasn't going to hire them--they were fired, then blackballed (if not beaten or killed) if they tried to negotiate a better wage. They were immediately thrown out of "their" homes (the company homes) if they were even suspected of trying to organize.The mine owners, business people and politicians stuck together; the miners had no choice but to try to do the same. Some paid a horrible price for it.</p><p>You think there was a natural, immutable "balance" between the mine owners and the employees before the unions came along? Miners were doin' just fine til those pesky unions came along and ruined it? :shock: History begs to differ. And my then-14 year old grandfather sure didn't think so and he was there so you'll pardon me for believing him, as there was never a harder-working man who lived.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="boondocks, post: 1396773, member: 20599"] Wow you saw a different show than I did. I come from a long line of WV miners (and loggers). Before the unions came in, as the Mine Wars program shows,the miners were literally near-starving and tried to stick together to bargain for better wages. For daring to do so, they were hunted like animals by the police and military on the demand of the politicians, who were bought and sold by the mine owners. You are looking at their options from a modern-day lens. They had no power, no assets, owned nothing but the clothes on their backs (if those). The mine in the next town over wasn't going to hire them--they were fired, then blackballed (if not beaten or killed) if they tried to negotiate a better wage. They were immediately thrown out of "their" homes (the company homes) if they were even suspected of trying to organize.The mine owners, business people and politicians stuck together; the miners had no choice but to try to do the same. Some paid a horrible price for it. You think there was a natural, immutable "balance" between the mine owners and the employees before the unions came along? Miners were doin' just fine til those pesky unions came along and ruined it? :shock: History begs to differ. And my then-14 year old grandfather sure didn't think so and he was there so you'll pardon me for believing him, as there was never a harder-working man who lived. [/QUOTE]
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