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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1640863" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>Brute, what is worrying me is the whole state of mind of the liberals/socialists and what they are proposing for future things. There is no way they can come close to even funding the first stage of some of what they are talking about without coming in and taxing.... and then confiscating.... some of the money that you have put away as a hard working individual..... all in the name of the betterment of the masses and equality for the poor and whatever stupid name they can put on it. I mean there are rumblings that they will start coming in and actually taking a percentage of your retirement money. </p><p>It won't matter about being grandfathered in, they will change the rules to suit themselves, and the hard working little guy is going to pay the piper for all to dance....and get shafted in the middle of the song. </p><p></p><p>I am not someone who is normally pessimistic.... but this has got me thinking very seriously about what can really happen... and we are not as far from it as you think. Even if/when Trump gets back in, he will be in his 2nd term.... they will be trying to thwart him at every single piece of legislation he promotes, they will really make it next to impossible to do his job. I don't think he is all perfect.... but the man has got to have skin like an elephant, and a constitution and fortitude made of the strongest steel/alloy there is to continue forging ahead like he does. </p><p>Then they will attack and win the next election and we are on a slippery slope that will divide us like nothing else. </p><p></p><p>This country is coming to another "civil war" that will be so far from civil that the previous war between the states will look like a childs game. These people are totally nuts, and there is no middle road with them. They will change and take and bury more decent honest people than you have ever seen. It is sad and it is sickening to even think about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1640863, member: 25884"] Brute, what is worrying me is the whole state of mind of the liberals/socialists and what they are proposing for future things. There is no way they can come close to even funding the first stage of some of what they are talking about without coming in and taxing.... and then confiscating.... some of the money that you have put away as a hard working individual..... all in the name of the betterment of the masses and equality for the poor and whatever stupid name they can put on it. I mean there are rumblings that they will start coming in and actually taking a percentage of your retirement money. It won't matter about being grandfathered in, they will change the rules to suit themselves, and the hard working little guy is going to pay the piper for all to dance....and get shafted in the middle of the song. I am not someone who is normally pessimistic.... but this has got me thinking very seriously about what can really happen... and we are not as far from it as you think. Even if/when Trump gets back in, he will be in his 2nd term.... they will be trying to thwart him at every single piece of legislation he promotes, they will really make it next to impossible to do his job. I don't think he is all perfect.... but the man has got to have skin like an elephant, and a constitution and fortitude made of the strongest steel/alloy there is to continue forging ahead like he does. Then they will attack and win the next election and we are on a slippery slope that will divide us like nothing else. This country is coming to another "civil war" that will be so far from civil that the previous war between the states will look like a childs game. These people are totally nuts, and there is no middle road with them. They will change and take and bury more decent honest people than you have ever seen. It is sad and it is sickening to even think about it. [/QUOTE]
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