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<blockquote data-quote="Stepper" data-source="post: 398920" data-attributes="member: 3398"><p>Well i read through all of this and it is a very interesting & helpful thread. I am a newbie and have alot to learn. Although i have learned alot already. The more i get into cattle the main thing i have learned so far is just how much i dont know.</p><p></p><p>You know this may sound stupid but what really got me into cattle was my desire to grow grass. ( or to grow hay for our horses ) I was raised in farm country and have helped work in a little of it all. ( Bucking hay, rowe crops, gardening, timber stand improvement etc....., ) So i guess that is where i developed some of my interest in farming.</p><p></p><p>But at this point in my cattle farming. I enjoy growing grass as much if not more than i do the cattle. I am trying to buy 160 acres. And the main reason i want it is because of all the things that i can see that can be done with it. It has a creek that runs right through the middle of it that is perfect for irrigation. This creek is about 15' to 20' across and 4' to 5' deep during the dryest years. And the soil on this place is unbeleaveible. I bet you can go anywhere on it and dig 5' deep and still be in top soil. It is just unreal. It is also has two good ponds on it. And best of all it sits right in the heart of nothing but cattle farms for several miles in any direction. No worry about a cow getting out on a road and getting hit.</p><p></p><p>The way alot you guys fell about breeding cattle is about how i feel about growing grass. I like to see just how clean and good of grass i can grow. And just how many tons per acre that i can grow.</p><p></p><p>But now i have to do something with the grass that i grow. And i am starting to get that same disire to grow the most profitible herd of cattle that i can.</p><p></p><p>When i got into cows, heck i did not really know what i was doing. I just mimiced or tried to mimic what i saw the majority of the other cattle farmers doing. And that was to buy black cattle and try to wean off 6 weight calfs at 205 days.</p><p></p><p>But now i can see Caustics point. If you want to be successful in cattle. You have to be able to follow the market. And also like alot of other cattlemen have pointed out again and again on here. You have to know what to look for in cattle to know a good cow/bull when you are looking at it. ( just because the thing is live and breathing and will produce a calf once a year is not enough.)</p><p></p><p>That knowledge is what separates the cattlemen from us newbies or want a be cattlemen. When i first came to this forum. I thought that some of the members like Caustic and others just always got up on the wrong side of the bed every morning and took it out on us newbies. But i am starting to finally see the light. They know what they are talking about when it comes to cattle. </p><p></p><p>My self i need to learn more about what to look for in cattle. So if i am understanding this post right. If you run red herfords you can cross them with a black bull and throw black calfs ? Which right now that is what the market is calling for right ? Or i could cross my black cows with a herford bull and raise black baldies ?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stepper, post: 398920, member: 3398"] Well i read through all of this and it is a very interesting & helpful thread. I am a newbie and have alot to learn. Although i have learned alot already. The more i get into cattle the main thing i have learned so far is just how much i dont know. You know this may sound stupid but what really got me into cattle was my desire to grow grass. ( or to grow hay for our horses ) I was raised in farm country and have helped work in a little of it all. ( Bucking hay, rowe crops, gardening, timber stand improvement etc....., ) So i guess that is where i developed some of my interest in farming. But at this point in my cattle farming. I enjoy growing grass as much if not more than i do the cattle. I am trying to buy 160 acres. And the main reason i want it is because of all the things that i can see that can be done with it. It has a creek that runs right through the middle of it that is perfect for irrigation. This creek is about 15' to 20' across and 4' to 5' deep during the dryest years. And the soil on this place is unbeleaveible. I bet you can go anywhere on it and dig 5' deep and still be in top soil. It is just unreal. It is also has two good ponds on it. And best of all it sits right in the heart of nothing but cattle farms for several miles in any direction. No worry about a cow getting out on a road and getting hit. The way alot you guys fell about breeding cattle is about how i feel about growing grass. I like to see just how clean and good of grass i can grow. And just how many tons per acre that i can grow. But now i have to do something with the grass that i grow. And i am starting to get that same disire to grow the most profitible herd of cattle that i can. When i got into cows, heck i did not really know what i was doing. I just mimiced or tried to mimic what i saw the majority of the other cattle farmers doing. And that was to buy black cattle and try to wean off 6 weight calfs at 205 days. But now i can see Caustics point. If you want to be successful in cattle. You have to be able to follow the market. And also like alot of other cattlemen have pointed out again and again on here. You have to know what to look for in cattle to know a good cow/bull when you are looking at it. ( just because the thing is live and breathing and will produce a calf once a year is not enough.) That knowledge is what separates the cattlemen from us newbies or want a be cattlemen. When i first came to this forum. I thought that some of the members like Caustic and others just always got up on the wrong side of the bed every morning and took it out on us newbies. But i am starting to finally see the light. They know what they are talking about when it comes to cattle. My self i need to learn more about what to look for in cattle. So if i am understanding this post right. If you run red herfords you can cross them with a black bull and throw black calfs ? Which right now that is what the market is calling for right ? Or i could cross my black cows with a herford bull and raise black baldies ? [/QUOTE]
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