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<blockquote data-quote="aplusmnt" data-source="post: 398838" data-attributes="member: 1399"><p>Its not hard to know who on here has or does make money off of cattle. Just pay attention, no one needs to show you their tax forms. If you can't figure that out then you probably should not be raising cattle.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tell me how you get a red baldy out of a Black Angus then? Caustics point was with a red cow or specifically a Hereford you can go directions that you can not go with black. Once you go black you can not go back, unless you wait on a recessive gene and its percentages to catch up. </p><p></p><p>None of the most talented breeders are new. No Newbie is going to surpass years of experience and if anything they have more garbage in their brains, they are more likely to buy into the trends of the moment, that the old timer has already seen come and go. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You must have never had a cow come from Bermuda pastures to fescue then! Or one from the corn belt to fescue. </p><p></p><p>Cattle generally are offspring from the same environment from the same area and because of that selective breeding might better suit that area vs another. Even amongst breeds breeders might select different traits such as milk production to suit their environment better. So cattle from one region will most likely suit your needs more than from some far off region. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There has been many studies done that show the mathematical proof that moderate framed cattle are more times than not more profitable than large framed. It has to do with the number of head you can run to the acre. Just do a google search and you can find it, I am not in mood to do your work for you. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How can you say a beginner that is starting out does not have more time if he buys a few 3 in 1's? If march of 2007 the beginner begins his herd, he buys all 3 in 1's then he does not need a bull till around may of 2008 14 months later. He has 14 months to get going and then purchase the bull. If he buys Pairs then he has 1 or 2 months to get the bull bought. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I think from your post we can tell who's advice should be avoided and who is full of baloney</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aplusmnt, post: 398838, member: 1399"] Its not hard to know who on here has or does make money off of cattle. Just pay attention, no one needs to show you their tax forms. If you can't figure that out then you probably should not be raising cattle. Tell me how you get a red baldy out of a Black Angus then? Caustics point was with a red cow or specifically a Hereford you can go directions that you can not go with black. Once you go black you can not go back, unless you wait on a recessive gene and its percentages to catch up. None of the most talented breeders are new. No Newbie is going to surpass years of experience and if anything they have more garbage in their brains, they are more likely to buy into the trends of the moment, that the old timer has already seen come and go. You must have never had a cow come from Bermuda pastures to fescue then! Or one from the corn belt to fescue. Cattle generally are offspring from the same environment from the same area and because of that selective breeding might better suit that area vs another. Even amongst breeds breeders might select different traits such as milk production to suit their environment better. So cattle from one region will most likely suit your needs more than from some far off region. There has been many studies done that show the mathematical proof that moderate framed cattle are more times than not more profitable than large framed. It has to do with the number of head you can run to the acre. Just do a google search and you can find it, I am not in mood to do your work for you. How can you say a beginner that is starting out does not have more time if he buys a few 3 in 1's? If march of 2007 the beginner begins his herd, he buys all 3 in 1's then he does not need a bull till around may of 2008 14 months later. He has 14 months to get going and then purchase the bull. If he buys Pairs then he has 1 or 2 months to get the bull bought. I think from your post we can tell who's advice should be avoided and who is full of baloney [/QUOTE]
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