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<blockquote data-quote="greybeard" data-source="post: 1157157" data-attributes="member: 18945"><p>I don't doubt the writer's data (Tho it's 2 year's old, since it's for 2011 weanlings) BUT, it looks at aspects from the buyer's perspective only, and uses data for a dry lot wintered heifer. We don't dry lot anything down here. It is also written during a period when the cattle herd was still in downsize mode due to both a 2011 Texas/Southwest and 2012 midwest drought. 2014 is a different ballgame altogether--Not so sure all that would hold true today.</p><p></p><p>That aside.......</p><p>Buying or raising a heifer to breeding age or 1st calf is a double edged sword and that brings up a question. None of us go to a slaebarn or breeder's sale to buy culls--we all want good replacements. Someone, raised them and did so profitably.</p><p>IF, it is going to cost the retained heifer's owner 5 calves worth of profit to recoup the cost of raising it, then does it not also stand to reason that it will also cost the seller of the breeding aged heifer the same? I would assume so--all conditions being equal. </p><p>And, if that is true ("<em>Someone Somewhere"</em> is obviously paying the cost from 6 months to breeding age/wt--they don't just drop out of the sky ready for you to buy them) then it would seem that the seller of the many thousands of replacement heifers bought each week is also in the same predictament the writer refers to in regards to lost 'selling opportunity at weaning'--and that cannot be correct. If it were, there would be no seedstock producers in the business today. The sellers of these breeding age or bred heifers are making $$ and lots of it otherwise, they would be selling all their weaning age calves.</p><p>So, for those who buy rather than raise their replacements, what's the difference? The guy sold you a bred heifer (or ready to be) and he made $ off the sale and probably will continue to do so--AND, it's a dang good bet, he's retaining many of his weanlings to continue in that same business.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="greybeard, post: 1157157, member: 18945"] I don't doubt the writer's data (Tho it's 2 year's old, since it's for 2011 weanlings) BUT, it looks at aspects from the buyer's perspective only, and uses data for a dry lot wintered heifer. We don't dry lot anything down here. It is also written during a period when the cattle herd was still in downsize mode due to both a 2011 Texas/Southwest and 2012 midwest drought. 2014 is a different ballgame altogether--Not so sure all that would hold true today. That aside....... Buying or raising a heifer to breeding age or 1st calf is a double edged sword and that brings up a question. None of us go to a slaebarn or breeder's sale to buy culls--we all want good replacements. Someone, raised them and did so profitably. IF, it is going to cost the retained heifer's owner 5 calves worth of profit to recoup the cost of raising it, then does it not also stand to reason that it will also cost the seller of the breeding aged heifer the same? I would assume so--all conditions being equal. And, if that is true ("[i]Someone Somewhere"[/i] is obviously paying the cost from 6 months to breeding age/wt--they don't just drop out of the sky ready for you to buy them) then it would seem that the seller of the many thousands of replacement heifers bought each week is also in the same predictament the writer refers to in regards to lost 'selling opportunity at weaning'--and that cannot be correct. If it were, there would be no seedstock producers in the business today. The sellers of these breeding age or bred heifers are making $$ and lots of it otherwise, they would be selling all their weaning age calves. So, for those who buy rather than raise their replacements, what's the difference? The guy sold you a bred heifer (or ready to be) and he made $ off the sale and probably will continue to do so--AND, it's a dang good bet, he's retaining many of his weanlings to continue in that same business. [/QUOTE]
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