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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Reynolds" data-source="post: 1806287" data-attributes="member: 43196"><p>Co-mingling CSG and WSG is not normally recommended because it is 'thought' that they are incompatible. Generally speaking, I would agree. However, if you take time to analyze the biology of specific species of CSG and WSG, You will find that there are specific combinations that do indeed work and provide benefits of both worlds. The annual WSG red river crabgrass and CSG perennial tall fescue is one of those combinations that does work, at least in SE Ohio. I know a producer that has had a pasture with this mix for 25 straight years. The combination I hear people talk about the most and use it to indicate that WSG and CSG don't work together is tall fescue and big bluestem. I need someone to tell me how these could possibly ever be considered to be compatable considering that BBS is to be maintained at an 8 inch stubble height, has very coarse stems and is a bunchgrass and tall fescue is a short, relatively fine leaved sod-forming/bunchgrass (mixed morphology) that you maintain at a 3-4 inch stubble height. Based on these characteristics alone, and not WSG vs CSG, why would someone attempt to 'make' them compatible? Actually, the fact that one is a CSG and the other a WSG makes is barely possible to grow them together. A college of mine tried this and actually was successful, but he described it as 'a nightmare' trying to accomplish and manage. FYI: He is now retired but was an agronomist/grazing specialist and raised livestock as a hobby. If anyone could do it, it would be him. I think his description of 'a nightmare' about sums up if anyone should attempt it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Reynolds, post: 1806287, member: 43196"] Co-mingling CSG and WSG is not normally recommended because it is 'thought' that they are incompatible. Generally speaking, I would agree. However, if you take time to analyze the biology of specific species of CSG and WSG, You will find that there are specific combinations that do indeed work and provide benefits of both worlds. The annual WSG red river crabgrass and CSG perennial tall fescue is one of those combinations that does work, at least in SE Ohio. I know a producer that has had a pasture with this mix for 25 straight years. The combination I hear people talk about the most and use it to indicate that WSG and CSG don't work together is tall fescue and big bluestem. I need someone to tell me how these could possibly ever be considered to be compatable considering that BBS is to be maintained at an 8 inch stubble height, has very coarse stems and is a bunchgrass and tall fescue is a short, relatively fine leaved sod-forming/bunchgrass (mixed morphology) that you maintain at a 3-4 inch stubble height. Based on these characteristics alone, and not WSG vs CSG, why would someone attempt to 'make' them compatible? Actually, the fact that one is a CSG and the other a WSG makes is barely possible to grow them together. A college of mine tried this and actually was successful, but he described it as 'a nightmare' trying to accomplish and manage. FYI: He is now retired but was an agronomist/grazing specialist and raised livestock as a hobby. If anyone could do it, it would be him. I think his description of 'a nightmare' about sums up if anyone should attempt it. [/QUOTE]
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