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<blockquote data-quote="1982vett" data-source="post: 638142" data-attributes="member: 7795"><p>GM, Ford, Chrysler, John Deere, Kelloggs, Kraft, JPMorgan, Coke, Pepsi, General Electric, Wells Fargo, Alcoa AT&T, Bank of America, Bowing, Procter & Gamble, Walt Disney, 3M............Plenty of old companies out their. Some teeter on bankruptcy. While you said corporation shares are used for financing, I'll agree, but they also represent ownership of that company. So what you are saying is once a company goes public, ownership should take a back seat and let the rest of the world pillage it? If you did their wouldn't be any point in owning a share of a public company which brings me back towards my original point. Investing for the long haul right now is a suckers bet until stability returns to the market. Even good companies are being taken out a being shot. For no other reason than being in an index or an ETF, they get sold. Can't own them till "change" arrives on the scene.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Trade 'em but don't own 'em. Is it to late to sell? Don't know, some say it is never to late to sell. Only when they go to $.00 is it to late to sell. Selling seems to be the thing to do right now. Am I selling, haven't since September. Am I thinking about it? You betcha. What's the point in willingly walking out in front of the firing squad. Have I bought recently? Yep, trickled a little in a week ago. Got my head handed to me to the tune of 12% in 5 days. Every rally in the last 3 weeks has lasted less than 1 day. Investors have lost confidence, apparently even those that supported our new president and congressional leaders. Why buy Monday when you can buy cheaper on Friday, and why buy then. All that is left are the flippers. </p><p></p><p>If that is what you want to do it's your choice. I would prefer to invest in a company that is producing products or services to individuals or other companies for a price which is affordable and gives its employees fair compensation with enough left over for the company and shareholder to prosper. At the present time, with the speed and connectivity we have with today's technology and with trading vehicles which give a large amount of leverage with small sums of money, it my very well be such investments have gone the way of the dinosaur. If that is so, then the markets have become nothing much more than a big casino. Only difference, in a casino, you put your money on the table <strong>before</strong> you spin the wheel and collect only after it stops.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="1982vett, post: 638142, member: 7795"] GM, Ford, Chrysler, John Deere, Kelloggs, Kraft, JPMorgan, Coke, Pepsi, General Electric, Wells Fargo, Alcoa AT&T, Bank of America, Bowing, Procter & Gamble, Walt Disney, 3M............Plenty of old companies out their. Some teeter on bankruptcy. While you said corporation shares are used for financing, I'll agree, but they also represent ownership of that company. So what you are saying is once a company goes public, ownership should take a back seat and let the rest of the world pillage it? If you did their wouldn't be any point in owning a share of a public company which brings me back towards my original point. Investing for the long haul right now is a suckers bet until stability returns to the market. Even good companies are being taken out a being shot. For no other reason than being in an index or an ETF, they get sold. Can't own them till "change" arrives on the scene. Trade 'em but don't own 'em. Is it to late to sell? Don't know, some say it is never to late to sell. Only when they go to $.00 is it to late to sell. Selling seems to be the thing to do right now. Am I selling, haven't since September. Am I thinking about it? You betcha. What's the point in willingly walking out in front of the firing squad. Have I bought recently? Yep, trickled a little in a week ago. Got my head handed to me to the tune of 12% in 5 days. Every rally in the last 3 weeks has lasted less than 1 day. Investors have lost confidence, apparently even those that supported our new president and congressional leaders. Why buy Monday when you can buy cheaper on Friday, and why buy then. All that is left are the flippers. If that is what you want to do it's your choice. I would prefer to invest in a company that is producing products or services to individuals or other companies for a price which is affordable and gives its employees fair compensation with enough left over for the company and shareholder to prosper. At the present time, with the speed and connectivity we have with today's technology and with trading vehicles which give a large amount of leverage with small sums of money, it my very well be such investments have gone the way of the dinosaur. If that is so, then the markets have become nothing much more than a big casino. Only difference, in a casino, you put your money on the table [b]before[/b] you spin the wheel and collect only after it stops. [/QUOTE]
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