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<blockquote data-quote="Jeanne - Simme Valley" data-source="post: 1652852" data-attributes="member: 968"><p>Wow - gone 1 day and missed a lot.</p><p>I have a hard time accepting the origin of the Polled Hfd - maybe I'm missing something, but why hasn't anyone developed a polled Holstein - or maybe they have and I don't know of it. You would think if it is a mutation, "someone" would have jumped on it. There are enough Holsteins around for a mutation to develop.</p><p>Black Simmental didn't always come from a Registered Black Angus bull. I bred my first Simmental semen back in 1970. I had a crayon commercial herd. Got 1/2 blood black Simmentals the first year - out of BWF cows from a commercial herd that never used a PB bull.</p><p>By the 90's, I had several cow families that were black or black factored - never using an Angus bull or a black Simmental bull. I raised an ET Homo black, Homo polled PB Simmental bull that I started using in my herd (my avatar). </p><p>Talking about the milk in Simmental - if you had Simmentals back in the 70's, 80's 90's - you had TOO MUCH milk. I am glad we reduced the milk production. Calves would get on 1 teat for a couple weeks, then find a 2nd, then finally get going on all 4. Nightmare. The "American" Simmental is a blend of what works best for your area. I am glad breeders/feedlots quit discriminating against "extra" white. I love chromed cattle. But, like I have said for many, many years - I don't care if they are Red, Black, or Purple Polka Dotted - just so they are good!</p><p></p><p>Angus have always been my 2nd favorite breed. I am ashamed at some of the Angus cattle I am seeing today. Too many breeders are looking at their papers and not AT THEIR animals. Hate to admit it, but since the Polled Hfd & Horned Hfd combined, the Hereford breed has excelled a lot of the Angus around. I am extremely impressed with what I am seeing in the Hfd breed - all having Horned genes in them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeanne - Simme Valley, post: 1652852, member: 968"] Wow - gone 1 day and missed a lot. I have a hard time accepting the origin of the Polled Hfd - maybe I'm missing something, but why hasn't anyone developed a polled Holstein - or maybe they have and I don't know of it. You would think if it is a mutation, "someone" would have jumped on it. There are enough Holsteins around for a mutation to develop. Black Simmental didn't always come from a Registered Black Angus bull. I bred my first Simmental semen back in 1970. I had a crayon commercial herd. Got 1/2 blood black Simmentals the first year - out of BWF cows from a commercial herd that never used a PB bull. By the 90's, I had several cow families that were black or black factored - never using an Angus bull or a black Simmental bull. I raised an ET Homo black, Homo polled PB Simmental bull that I started using in my herd (my avatar). Talking about the milk in Simmental - if you had Simmentals back in the 70's, 80's 90's - you had TOO MUCH milk. I am glad we reduced the milk production. Calves would get on 1 teat for a couple weeks, then find a 2nd, then finally get going on all 4. Nightmare. The "American" Simmental is a blend of what works best for your area. I am glad breeders/feedlots quit discriminating against "extra" white. I love chromed cattle. But, like I have said for many, many years - I don't care if they are Red, Black, or Purple Polka Dotted - just so they are good! Angus have always been my 2nd favorite breed. I am ashamed at some of the Angus cattle I am seeing today. Too many breeders are looking at their papers and not AT THEIR animals. Hate to admit it, but since the Polled Hfd & Horned Hfd combined, the Hereford breed has excelled a lot of the Angus around. I am extremely impressed with what I am seeing in the Hfd breed - all having Horned genes in them. [/QUOTE]
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