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<blockquote data-quote="Oldtimer" data-source="post: 43692" data-attributes="member: 97"><p>Texan-- I started out as a big supporter of NCBA- I really thought that if we all (cow/calf, feeder, packer, retailer) could work together it would be the best thing for the beef industry. I'll agree I was apprehensive if it could work, since each have different agendas, but at least I was supportive-- NCBA came out with a plan for a mandatory COOL law-- one that would give the American and foreign consumer the choice on what countries beef they eat- I was sold on the plan- whether it increased demand for US beef or not- it was the right thing to do- consumers should be able to choose whether the meat they are eating is US, Canadian, Mexican, Australian, etc.--everything else imported into the country is labeled from your shirts to your shorts to your auto parts--- The packers, retailers, some southern feeders, Canada and Mexico lobbied against it - at the same time Canada conveniently opened the border to some border state calves on a trial basis under certain regs.- at the time the Pres. and incoming Pres. were both from border states- NCBA did a complete flip-flop and came out against the law. This became the start of everything supported by the cow/calf producer being overpowered by the packers and feeders- NCBA doesn't have a one man, one vote system and set up districts with reps like R-CALF-- NCBA Board membership is decided by a complex system made up by cattle population -- which gives the feeder states (where the packing plants are located) a larger board and committee representation.--It got to where everything brought to the NCBA by the cow/calf producer was killed in committee or by the board. R-CALF has given these people representation.</p><p></p><p>As far as the checkoff goes- I voted for it and still pretty much support it- I think the advertising has done some good for the beef industry-(but everything good for the beef industry is not always that positive for the cattle industry) I believe the law should have been changed to require a revote every 7-10 years on it and on who should administer it. Dynasty's should not be built upon what is essentially a tax.--- One of the major complaints I have heard about the checkoff is the inequity in collecting it from state to state. Some states like Mt. have strong beef boards and brand laws and the checkoff is collected at every ownership change, be it at a sale barn or private treaty sale-- But I have heard in many states the checkoff is loosely collected- or done on the honor system- or in many cases, some producers never even knew it existed.</p><p></p><p>Is R-CALF right or wrong about the effect of Canadian cattle on our prices--I don't know-- All I can go by is the fact that since the border closure we are experiencing record prices- Something that R-CALF has touted for years-- I know their are other demand factors (Atkins, low cattle numbers, etc.)-What effect does each have?</p><p></p><p>Marty made an interesting comment about NCBA that I have to agree with- For 20 years when prices were bad it was our own fault (we weren't marketing right, we needed to retain ownership, we needed to vertically integrate our ranchs more, etc) But now that the price is high they claim it is demand brought about by the checkoff--BULL- (the checkoff doesn't even recognize the Atkins or low carb diet)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldtimer, post: 43692, member: 97"] Texan-- I started out as a big supporter of NCBA- I really thought that if we all (cow/calf, feeder, packer, retailer) could work together it would be the best thing for the beef industry. I'll agree I was apprehensive if it could work, since each have different agendas, but at least I was supportive-- NCBA came out with a plan for a mandatory COOL law-- one that would give the American and foreign consumer the choice on what countries beef they eat- I was sold on the plan- whether it increased demand for US beef or not- it was the right thing to do- consumers should be able to choose whether the meat they are eating is US, Canadian, Mexican, Australian, etc.--everything else imported into the country is labeled from your shirts to your shorts to your auto parts--- The packers, retailers, some southern feeders, Canada and Mexico lobbied against it - at the same time Canada conveniently opened the border to some border state calves on a trial basis under certain regs.- at the time the Pres. and incoming Pres. were both from border states- NCBA did a complete flip-flop and came out against the law. This became the start of everything supported by the cow/calf producer being overpowered by the packers and feeders- NCBA doesn't have a one man, one vote system and set up districts with reps like R-CALF-- NCBA Board membership is decided by a complex system made up by cattle population -- which gives the feeder states (where the packing plants are located) a larger board and committee representation.--It got to where everything brought to the NCBA by the cow/calf producer was killed in committee or by the board. R-CALF has given these people representation. As far as the checkoff goes- I voted for it and still pretty much support it- I think the advertising has done some good for the beef industry-(but everything good for the beef industry is not always that positive for the cattle industry) I believe the law should have been changed to require a revote every 7-10 years on it and on who should administer it. Dynasty's should not be built upon what is essentially a tax.--- One of the major complaints I have heard about the checkoff is the inequity in collecting it from state to state. Some states like Mt. have strong beef boards and brand laws and the checkoff is collected at every ownership change, be it at a sale barn or private treaty sale-- But I have heard in many states the checkoff is loosely collected- or done on the honor system- or in many cases, some producers never even knew it existed. Is R-CALF right or wrong about the effect of Canadian cattle on our prices--I don't know-- All I can go by is the fact that since the border closure we are experiencing record prices- Something that R-CALF has touted for years-- I know their are other demand factors (Atkins, low cattle numbers, etc.)-What effect does each have? Marty made an interesting comment about NCBA that I have to agree with- For 20 years when prices were bad it was our own fault (we weren't marketing right, we needed to retain ownership, we needed to vertically integrate our ranchs more, etc) But now that the price is high they claim it is demand brought about by the checkoff--BULL- (the checkoff doesn't even recognize the Atkins or low carb diet) [/QUOTE]
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