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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 3006"><p>Excellent move to arrange for a trainer to work with her, especially since the trainer wants you as part of the effort.</p><p></p><p>You say she hasn't "offered to kick," but, in my experience, turning her butt to you and laying back her ears are threats to your safety. She is telling you she is willing, at that moment, to attack you if you do not give to her threats. A horse that displays such behavior is not simply trying to ignore or avoid you. That horse is using threatening posture to try and intimidate you.</p><p></p><p>I disagree with the advice to try and handle her yourself at this point. If you do not have advanced experience with training, I would advise you to keep your distance or, at least carefully use safety measures, until the trainer works with her. I am seriously concerned for your safety.</p><p></p><p>You are correct in wanting to round pen her. Correct round pen handling is how you will utilize her instincts and remind her to give to you.</p><p></p><p>A horse that threatens needs to be instantaneously reprimanded, and I'm sure your trainer can teach you how to do this safely.</p><p></p><p>We have a new yearling at our place who generally has a great disposition, as does her sire. I watched my spouse in the pen with her one day and on three occasions she would paw the ground as he approached her, and the pawing, when not stopped, led to a lashing out with front feet. She was feeling pressured, but that was no excuse for dangerous behavior. My spouse did not immediately pick up on the fact this filly was starting a dangerous habit. I am definitely no horse trainer, but I had a pretty good idea of what needed to be done from friends who are trainers. I changed places with my spouse, and calmly approached her, talking quietly to her. She pawed the ground once, and I scolded her. She pawed again, and I could see she was shifting her weight off of her front feet. Well, I had a lounge whip held behind my leg, and I instantly threw up my arms, yelled at her, and hit her once on the butt with the whip. I then worked her in the round pen a bit and she has never offered to do the pawing and rearing since. I did run how I had handled the episode by my horse trainer friends and they agreed it was handled correctly.</p><p></p><p>Your horse cannot begin to learn to trust you unless she KNOWS you are the boss in the herd. She will learn that through the work the trainer does with her. The trainer can also advise you on his or her opinion of the odds of this horse learning to respect your space. Some adult horses were never taught to respect human space as babies, and some never become safe horses as adults.</p><p></p><p>I admire you for thinking this through and for seeking expert advice. Make sure strangers do not have access to your horse until the trainer has worked with her and given you an opinion. Good luck to you. I hope you find a solution and go on to have many beautiful babies. Please let us know how it goes, ok?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 3006"] Excellent move to arrange for a trainer to work with her, especially since the trainer wants you as part of the effort. You say she hasn't "offered to kick," but, in my experience, turning her butt to you and laying back her ears are threats to your safety. She is telling you she is willing, at that moment, to attack you if you do not give to her threats. A horse that displays such behavior is not simply trying to ignore or avoid you. That horse is using threatening posture to try and intimidate you. I disagree with the advice to try and handle her yourself at this point. If you do not have advanced experience with training, I would advise you to keep your distance or, at least carefully use safety measures, until the trainer works with her. I am seriously concerned for your safety. You are correct in wanting to round pen her. Correct round pen handling is how you will utilize her instincts and remind her to give to you. A horse that threatens needs to be instantaneously reprimanded, and I'm sure your trainer can teach you how to do this safely. We have a new yearling at our place who generally has a great disposition, as does her sire. I watched my spouse in the pen with her one day and on three occasions she would paw the ground as he approached her, and the pawing, when not stopped, led to a lashing out with front feet. She was feeling pressured, but that was no excuse for dangerous behavior. My spouse did not immediately pick up on the fact this filly was starting a dangerous habit. I am definitely no horse trainer, but I had a pretty good idea of what needed to be done from friends who are trainers. I changed places with my spouse, and calmly approached her, talking quietly to her. She pawed the ground once, and I scolded her. She pawed again, and I could see she was shifting her weight off of her front feet. Well, I had a lounge whip held behind my leg, and I instantly threw up my arms, yelled at her, and hit her once on the butt with the whip. I then worked her in the round pen a bit and she has never offered to do the pawing and rearing since. I did run how I had handled the episode by my horse trainer friends and they agreed it was handled correctly. Your horse cannot begin to learn to trust you unless she KNOWS you are the boss in the herd. She will learn that through the work the trainer does with her. The trainer can also advise you on his or her opinion of the odds of this horse learning to respect your space. Some adult horses were never taught to respect human space as babies, and some never become safe horses as adults. I admire you for thinking this through and for seeking expert advice. Make sure strangers do not have access to your horse until the trainer has worked with her and given you an opinion. Good luck to you. I hope you find a solution and go on to have many beautiful babies. Please let us know how it goes, ok? [/QUOTE]
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