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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1739907" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>To add in my 2 cents.... we cannot make hay this year for under $60-65 a roll... several of us have gotten together to compare the costs of fertilizer, diesel costs to run over the hay ground etc. Much of the ground we make hay on cannot be grazed... it is leased or "given to us" ground and there are no fences or water and some places are just not allowed to have animals. We make 5x5 or bigger rolls so 1-1200 lb rolls average on our somewhat hilly ground. NONE of our imputs are free because we don't work at a distillery. That is a bonus for you and that is great. </p><p></p><p>We sold preconditioned calves a couple weeks ago... 15 weighing 462 for 2.00 and 14 weighing 560's for 1.90. Been selling all the heifers we wanted to cull in the 450 wts for 1.45. We hit the high spot and things have dropped off more with the continuing mess in Russia and Ukraine. Fuel went up again yesterday another $.10 a gallon. We filled all the tanks at the farm when it started to go up and glad we did. We should be okay for this year's work, but who knows what the future will bring. This is going to continue to affect the costs of the hay making and we just turned down a place that the hay return is poor. If you don't fertilize the ground it will eventually get poorer and yield will be less. That is why we turned down this place... just not going to be worth the time and they don't believe in feeding the soil for better yields. We have a couple places that we have taken care of the ground and the yields show it. </p><p>Saying that you won't waste money on fertilizing is just saying you will just mine all the good out of the ground and then TS..... we have taken on some places like that and it has taken several years to get them back into productive fields. Protein is not the only thing that the hay needs to measure up to... the micro nutrients that helps to complete the feed profile is important too and cannot all be met from distillery waste. We have a distillery here and they sell to several of the bigger dairies, but it is not available for free.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1739907, member: 25884"] To add in my 2 cents.... we cannot make hay this year for under $60-65 a roll... several of us have gotten together to compare the costs of fertilizer, diesel costs to run over the hay ground etc. Much of the ground we make hay on cannot be grazed... it is leased or "given to us" ground and there are no fences or water and some places are just not allowed to have animals. We make 5x5 or bigger rolls so 1-1200 lb rolls average on our somewhat hilly ground. NONE of our imputs are free because we don't work at a distillery. That is a bonus for you and that is great. We sold preconditioned calves a couple weeks ago... 15 weighing 462 for 2.00 and 14 weighing 560's for 1.90. Been selling all the heifers we wanted to cull in the 450 wts for 1.45. We hit the high spot and things have dropped off more with the continuing mess in Russia and Ukraine. Fuel went up again yesterday another $.10 a gallon. We filled all the tanks at the farm when it started to go up and glad we did. We should be okay for this year's work, but who knows what the future will bring. This is going to continue to affect the costs of the hay making and we just turned down a place that the hay return is poor. If you don't fertilize the ground it will eventually get poorer and yield will be less. That is why we turned down this place... just not going to be worth the time and they don't believe in feeding the soil for better yields. We have a couple places that we have taken care of the ground and the yields show it. Saying that you won't waste money on fertilizing is just saying you will just mine all the good out of the ground and then TS..... we have taken on some places like that and it has taken several years to get them back into productive fields. Protein is not the only thing that the hay needs to measure up to... the micro nutrients that helps to complete the feed profile is important too and cannot all be met from distillery waste. We have a distillery here and they sell to several of the bigger dairies, but it is not available for free. [/QUOTE]
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