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<blockquote data-quote="cattle_gal" data-source="post: 47633" data-attributes="member: 643"><p>Jim,</p><p></p><p>Waygu is known for their high marbling(highest instance of genestar marbling breed). I finally saw this breed in the flesh last spring. The ones I saw were horned (cut off) big in the front and no muscling in the rump. They were "normal" sized. Frame 5-6. He crosses his bulls with Charolais and Angus and others. He hasn't sold to the Japan market in a few years.</p><p></p><p>Jim, science is coming along ways. It is so that breeds can be tested for certain genes. Weither it be marbling or tenderness. And I'm sure there will be more coming up soon. So now we don't have to rely on the good ol "my breed is the best". It will come down to "my cow is the best in my breed because he/she has the lab tested DNA to breed in to the offspring to be easy keepers, marbling, tenderness, muscle, most end product, ect"</p><p></p><p>There are so many varibles beyond the basic management that cattlemen can weigh now that were not avalible 5 years ago so easily.</p><p></p><p>So when it will come all down to it, it will be what gets the most end product in the packing plant for the consumer in either the mainstream market or other markets for your least output. </p><p></p><p>If you can find information or lots of information where different breeds were tested in the same feedlot per test and feed the same thing(know that the feedlot was not breed bias makes a huge difference also) and killed in the same plant, ect then you can see an apples to apples comparision. Other wise it is oranges to apples. EPD's will mean anothing across breeds. So don't compare that. One breed in particular does not want to be compared with other breeds using the same base of fomula.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cattle_gal, post: 47633, member: 643"] Jim, Waygu is known for their high marbling(highest instance of genestar marbling breed). I finally saw this breed in the flesh last spring. The ones I saw were horned (cut off) big in the front and no muscling in the rump. They were "normal" sized. Frame 5-6. He crosses his bulls with Charolais and Angus and others. He hasn't sold to the Japan market in a few years. Jim, science is coming along ways. It is so that breeds can be tested for certain genes. Weither it be marbling or tenderness. And I'm sure there will be more coming up soon. So now we don't have to rely on the good ol "my breed is the best". It will come down to "my cow is the best in my breed because he/she has the lab tested DNA to breed in to the offspring to be easy keepers, marbling, tenderness, muscle, most end product, ect" There are so many varibles beyond the basic management that cattlemen can weigh now that were not avalible 5 years ago so easily. So when it will come all down to it, it will be what gets the most end product in the packing plant for the consumer in either the mainstream market or other markets for your least output. If you can find information or lots of information where different breeds were tested in the same feedlot per test and feed the same thing(know that the feedlot was not breed bias makes a huge difference also) and killed in the same plant, ect then you can see an apples to apples comparision. Other wise it is oranges to apples. EPD's will mean anothing across breeds. So don't compare that. One breed in particular does not want to be compared with other breeds using the same base of fomula. [/QUOTE]
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