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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1398870" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>We wind up with a "bred too young" heifer about every other year. They are getting bred while still on their dams, and usually just about the time the bull is due to come out. We hardly ever have any bull calves running with the cows, they are all steers when they go to pasture; that said every once in a while we will forget to do one, or he got by us, or it is one on a bought cow. I had one family that had some dairy in it back aways, bought the calf as a baby to go on a nurse cow. She grew up, had a calf about 2 yrs, and then after her third calf, that heifer calf got caught by the bull. She calves at about 17 months, did fine except was a little bit stunted in size. She went on to have at least a dozen calves. Then, one daughter had a heifer get caught early, she had several calves. Now I have one that would be the great granddaughter; she got caught and calved at 16 months, raised a nice heifer calf, I held her back since she was smaller. Weaned the calf and then put her back with the bull so she went 18 months between calves and has had 4 more calves in a row. Her daughter must've caught the first day in with the bull, has had 2 at less than 12 months apart. </p><p>It has seemed to be a genetic thing with this family. They all come in heat young, and I attribute it a little to the dairy in the background. Most dairy heifers that I see start coming in heat at 7-10 months on the farms. </p><p>KNOCK ON WOOD, I have never pulled a calf from anyone in this family. And these heifers getting caught at 10-12 months are usually exposed to a +weight bull. Had one last year totally unrelated get caught by the neighbors bull, and she did okay too. That said, I really do prefer to calve my 1st calf heifers out at 27-30 months so that I just don't have to babysit them every minute til they calve. I prefer them to have the little better growth and they aren't so hard pressed to make milk and continue to grow and breed back if they are just a little bit older. A girl can have a baby at 15 but she is alot better off to wait til she is 18 or 20.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1398870, member: 25884"] We wind up with a "bred too young" heifer about every other year. They are getting bred while still on their dams, and usually just about the time the bull is due to come out. We hardly ever have any bull calves running with the cows, they are all steers when they go to pasture; that said every once in a while we will forget to do one, or he got by us, or it is one on a bought cow. I had one family that had some dairy in it back aways, bought the calf as a baby to go on a nurse cow. She grew up, had a calf about 2 yrs, and then after her third calf, that heifer calf got caught by the bull. She calves at about 17 months, did fine except was a little bit stunted in size. She went on to have at least a dozen calves. Then, one daughter had a heifer get caught early, she had several calves. Now I have one that would be the great granddaughter; she got caught and calved at 16 months, raised a nice heifer calf, I held her back since she was smaller. Weaned the calf and then put her back with the bull so she went 18 months between calves and has had 4 more calves in a row. Her daughter must've caught the first day in with the bull, has had 2 at less than 12 months apart. It has seemed to be a genetic thing with this family. They all come in heat young, and I attribute it a little to the dairy in the background. Most dairy heifers that I see start coming in heat at 7-10 months on the farms. KNOCK ON WOOD, I have never pulled a calf from anyone in this family. And these heifers getting caught at 10-12 months are usually exposed to a +weight bull. Had one last year totally unrelated get caught by the neighbors bull, and she did okay too. That said, I really do prefer to calve my 1st calf heifers out at 27-30 months so that I just don't have to babysit them every minute til they calve. I prefer them to have the little better growth and they aren't so hard pressed to make milk and continue to grow and breed back if they are just a little bit older. A girl can have a baby at 15 but she is alot better off to wait til she is 18 or 20..... [/QUOTE]
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