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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 7000"><p>Hasn't his poor dead horse been flogged enough?</p><p></p><p>dun</p><p></p><p>Sorry for not giving you a more</p><p>> complete response, so I will</p><p>> remedy that now.</p><p></p><p>> No, most public institutions do</p><p>> comparisons between breeds and</p><p>> also comparisons between breeding</p><p>> systems. Evidently you</p><p>> misunderstood my request. I</p><p>> requested ONE objective study that</p><p>> demonstrated that straightbred</p><p>> cattle made the rancher, farmer,</p><p>> primary producer, cattleman, beef</p><p>> producer, (whatever you choose to</p><p>> call the person that raises the</p><p>> animal), more profit than</p><p>> crossbred cattle. Hope you are</p><p>> clear about that now.</p><p></p><p>> But I don't need a</p><p></p><p>> No argument about the above.</p><p></p><p>> Good straightbred cattle</p><p></p><p>> Now this is pure breed association</p><p>> bunk. I guess you don't read</p><p>> anything put out by universities</p><p>> or reputable ag researchers. The</p><p>> consensus is that the most</p><p>> profitable genetics for</p><p>> "fitting most grids" and</p><p>> maximizing premiums from those</p><p>> grids is a combination of</p><p>> continental and british genetics.</p><p>> This means the most profitable</p><p>> animals are crossbreds.</p><p></p><p>> But the real $$ are</p><p></p><p>> Not really asking about profit</p><p>> levels you make for the packer. I</p><p>> am more interested in the profit</p><p>> levels of the producer.</p><p></p><p>> Let me remind you about beef</p><p>> production 101.</p><p></p><p>> In order to make a profit your</p><p>> income needs to exceed your</p><p>> expenses. Simply selling for a</p><p>> slightly higher price than the</p><p>> average of any market does not</p><p>> guarantee you a profit. You need</p><p>> to calculate the costs of</p><p>> production. The costs of</p><p>> production are far higher for</p><p>> straightbred cattle when compared</p><p>> to crossbred cattle, than any</p><p>> current premium on any grid market</p><p>> offers (except possibly one and I</p><p>> won't let you in on it yet)</p><p></p><p>> I can read opinions all day long,</p><p>> on any side of an issue I care to,</p><p>> so please save yourself the</p><p>> trouble of posting more opinions.</p><p>> You know the old saying about what</p><p>> opinions are like and everybody</p><p>> has one.</p><p></p><p>> I requested valid research. Look,</p><p>> I will be very generous, if you</p><p>> can find a breed funded study that</p><p>> shows straightbred cattle will</p><p>> make more money than crossbred</p><p>> cattle, for the commercial beef</p><p>> producer, I will accept it if</p><p>> referenced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 7000"] Hasn't his poor dead horse been flogged enough? dun Sorry for not giving you a more > complete response, so I will > remedy that now. > No, most public institutions do > comparisons between breeds and > also comparisons between breeding > systems. Evidently you > misunderstood my request. I > requested ONE objective study that > demonstrated that straightbred > cattle made the rancher, farmer, > primary producer, cattleman, beef > producer, (whatever you choose to > call the person that raises the > animal), more profit than > crossbred cattle. Hope you are > clear about that now. > But I don't need a > No argument about the above. > Good straightbred cattle > Now this is pure breed association > bunk. I guess you don't read > anything put out by universities > or reputable ag researchers. The > consensus is that the most > profitable genetics for > "fitting most grids" and > maximizing premiums from those > grids is a combination of > continental and british genetics. > This means the most profitable > animals are crossbreds. > But the real $$ are > Not really asking about profit > levels you make for the packer. I > am more interested in the profit > levels of the producer. > Let me remind you about beef > production 101. > In order to make a profit your > income needs to exceed your > expenses. Simply selling for a > slightly higher price than the > average of any market does not > guarantee you a profit. You need > to calculate the costs of > production. The costs of > production are far higher for > straightbred cattle when compared > to crossbred cattle, than any > current premium on any grid market > offers (except possibly one and I > won't let you in on it yet) > I can read opinions all day long, > on any side of an issue I care to, > so please save yourself the > trouble of posting more opinions. > You know the old saying about what > opinions are like and everybody > has one. > I requested valid research. Look, > I will be very generous, if you > can find a breed funded study that > shows straightbred cattle will > make more money than crossbred > cattle, for the commercial beef > producer, I will accept it if > referenced. [/QUOTE]
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