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<blockquote data-quote="SRBeef" data-source="post: 662705" data-attributes="member: 7509"><p>George, I appreciate your point of view here and I am impressed that you remembered something I posted last fall...my wife seems to remember everything I ever said, I just wish my kids would...</p><p></p><p>At the time I bought mybull from Jerry Huth in the spring of 08 I had no idea of what an EPD was. When I buy something that I don't know anything about I try to find someone who does know something and I feel I can trust and do what they tell me to do...</p><p></p><p>Yes Jerry picked out a bull based on the information I gave him. The bull he sold me, at least so far, seems to be exactly the bull I needed.</p><p></p><p>After buying my bull and learning more about cattle here and elsewhere, I found that the EPD's of my bull also seem to meet my needs, even if they are "low accuracy". I have noticed that my bull's EPD's improved from 2008 to 2009, fwiw. I think that Jerry Huth's peer group is large enough, his pedigree's are planned and he is very meticulous in maintaining data so that even his bull's "low accuracy" EPD's are worth a lot. Maybe more than some other "low accuracy" EPD's. </p><p></p><p>My only point on EPD's is that at least in my case, the EPD's appear to refect reality. Yes they are "low accuracy" andwill probably stay "low accuracy" at least as far as AHA is concerned because I do not have any registered females. I don't think you can register calves unless both dam and sire are registered?? I'm interested in selling high quality beef to consumers, not registering or showing breeding stock.</p><p></p><p>Is this just luck that Jerry Huth's "low accuracy" EPD's still seem to reflect reality? I don't think so. If you look at his recent sale flyer he is a firm believer in DATA. I trust he is also looking at these animals and culling for phenotype also. He has been in this business a long time. But he is working to develop traits that you just can't see looking at an animal, no matter how good his phenotype.</p><p></p><p>It seems to me that you can have a great looking bull but that same bull can have a tendency to sire 130 lb calves or ones that take forever to get to mature weight or sire daughters with poor udders or milk...this is where EPD's seem to come in.</p><p></p><p>I am not at all qualified to discuss EPD's other than to say that in my limited experience they seem very useful and do corelate well to the reality I see. </p><p></p><p>Thank you for your comments. Jim</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SRBeef, post: 662705, member: 7509"] George, I appreciate your point of view here and I am impressed that you remembered something I posted last fall...my wife seems to remember everything I ever said, I just wish my kids would... At the time I bought mybull from Jerry Huth in the spring of 08 I had no idea of what an EPD was. When I buy something that I don't know anything about I try to find someone who does know something and I feel I can trust and do what they tell me to do... Yes Jerry picked out a bull based on the information I gave him. The bull he sold me, at least so far, seems to be exactly the bull I needed. After buying my bull and learning more about cattle here and elsewhere, I found that the EPD's of my bull also seem to meet my needs, even if they are "low accuracy". I have noticed that my bull's EPD's improved from 2008 to 2009, fwiw. I think that Jerry Huth's peer group is large enough, his pedigree's are planned and he is very meticulous in maintaining data so that even his bull's "low accuracy" EPD's are worth a lot. Maybe more than some other "low accuracy" EPD's. My only point on EPD's is that at least in my case, the EPD's appear to refect reality. Yes they are "low accuracy" andwill probably stay "low accuracy" at least as far as AHA is concerned because I do not have any registered females. I don't think you can register calves unless both dam and sire are registered?? I'm interested in selling high quality beef to consumers, not registering or showing breeding stock. Is this just luck that Jerry Huth's "low accuracy" EPD's still seem to reflect reality? I don't think so. If you look at his recent sale flyer he is a firm believer in DATA. I trust he is also looking at these animals and culling for phenotype also. He has been in this business a long time. But he is working to develop traits that you just can't see looking at an animal, no matter how good his phenotype. It seems to me that you can have a great looking bull but that same bull can have a tendency to sire 130 lb calves or ones that take forever to get to mature weight or sire daughters with poor udders or milk...this is where EPD's seem to come in. I am not at all qualified to discuss EPD's other than to say that in my limited experience they seem very useful and do corelate well to the reality I see. Thank you for your comments. Jim [/QUOTE]
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