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<blockquote data-quote="Howdyjabo" data-source="post: 254001" data-attributes="member: 391"><p>Banamine masks the symptoms to base treatments on.</p><p>I still use it to drop really high temperatures(105.5+) down some at the initial treatment. But only if I am useing an every other day or longer med(which all my first line defense are nowadays).</p><p> By then the Banamine is not effecting the temperature or calfs attitude so I can really see how the initial treatment worked. -But more importantly I have a new accurate temperature base to compare the third treatment to.</p><p>If the temperature goes up- I know its a backset and not just the Banamine wearing off. Or if you keep giving Banamine you never see the temperature go up so you are behind in identifying a treatment failure.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there is very much value in useing Banimine to make the calf feel better- unless it has a very high temperature that can cause lung damage. They don't get any better faster than one without Banamine- and they don't get any sicker than one without Banamine. </p><p>In fact I THINK that the people I know that rely on Banamine don't do as well with sick calves as I do-- so it may actually be harmful as well as misleading.</p><p></p><p>Shipping fever isn't actually any one "disease" or bacteria or virus.</p><p>Its a stressor issue making calves susseptable to whatever is around-- and theres LOTS of things to be exposed to at stockyards. The added stress leads these things easily into pneumonia. </p><p>So a case of "shipping fever" could be the exact same thing a farm calf comes down with. But you wouldn't call what the farm calf came down with "shipping fever"-- its just sick <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Howdyjabo, post: 254001, member: 391"] Banamine masks the symptoms to base treatments on. I still use it to drop really high temperatures(105.5+) down some at the initial treatment. But only if I am useing an every other day or longer med(which all my first line defense are nowadays). By then the Banamine is not effecting the temperature or calfs attitude so I can really see how the initial treatment worked. -But more importantly I have a new accurate temperature base to compare the third treatment to. If the temperature goes up- I know its a backset and not just the Banamine wearing off. Or if you keep giving Banamine you never see the temperature go up so you are behind in identifying a treatment failure. I don't think there is very much value in useing Banimine to make the calf feel better- unless it has a very high temperature that can cause lung damage. They don't get any better faster than one without Banamine- and they don't get any sicker than one without Banamine. In fact I THINK that the people I know that rely on Banamine don't do as well with sick calves as I do-- so it may actually be harmful as well as misleading. Shipping fever isn't actually any one "disease" or bacteria or virus. Its a stressor issue making calves susseptable to whatever is around-- and theres LOTS of things to be exposed to at stockyards. The added stress leads these things easily into pneumonia. So a case of "shipping fever" could be the exact same thing a farm calf comes down with. But you wouldn't call what the farm calf came down with "shipping fever"-- its just sick :) [/QUOTE]
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