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<blockquote data-quote="RDFF" data-source="post: 1792723" data-attributes="member: 39018"><p>I am AI trained, bred our dairy herd for many years, had a very good whole herd first service catch percentage (75%, with first breeding on second heat cycle after calving... anything past 45 days from calving). HOWEVER, with dairy, you're with those animals alot more, which translates into "you're observing them more" and "more carefully"... which translates into "you're getting your timing more right". We would breed religiously at the milking shift 12 hours after observed standing heat... <u>but we were out there for hours every day twice a day, with cows in a "confinement" area where we could get them bred, because we had to milk them, and feed them</u>. That's not typically the case with beef cows. So with less "observation and ability to confine and actually breed them ON TIME", you'll end up with a lower conception rate, regardless of how much you might <u>want</u> to make it work.</p><p></p><p>I say, forget the sequencing drugs, unless you're determined that you want to end up with less than a 3 week calving window (which you won't achieve anyway unless you're willing to sell any that don't make that cut, because some won't settle on the first service, even WITH a bull). Work diligently on nutrition and condition, and put enough good bull power in with them to get the job done. No matter how good you are with AI, you'll never be able to do it as effectively as natural servicing will.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDFF, post: 1792723, member: 39018"] I am AI trained, bred our dairy herd for many years, had a very good whole herd first service catch percentage (75%, with first breeding on second heat cycle after calving... anything past 45 days from calving). HOWEVER, with dairy, you're with those animals alot more, which translates into "you're observing them more" and "more carefully"... which translates into "you're getting your timing more right". We would breed religiously at the milking shift 12 hours after observed standing heat... [U]but we were out there for hours every day twice a day, with cows in a "confinement" area where we could get them bred, because we had to milk them, and feed them[/U]. That's not typically the case with beef cows. So with less "observation and ability to confine and actually breed them ON TIME", you'll end up with a lower conception rate, regardless of how much you might [U]want[/U] to make it work. I say, forget the sequencing drugs, unless you're determined that you want to end up with less than a 3 week calving window (which you won't achieve anyway unless you're willing to sell any that don't make that cut, because some won't settle on the first service, even WITH a bull). Work diligently on nutrition and condition, and put enough good bull power in with them to get the job done. No matter how good you are with AI, you'll never be able to do it as effectively as natural servicing will. [/QUOTE]
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