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<blockquote data-quote="Deepsouth" data-source="post: 1126589" data-attributes="member: 17608"><p>If pines were not native to the area I would be very reluctant to try to grow them there. I live in longleaf country and years ago the longleaf was cut out hard and lobblolly was planted because it would grow faster than longleaf. However the lobblolly never made as good of quality tree as the native longleaf. Now we are going back with the longleaf. I believe whatever was native to a site is the best tree to plant. We have lower wetter sites with heavier soils that are more suitable to lobblolly but the sandy ridges are much more suitable to longleaf. Nature is smarter than we are and if pine was not native then there's a good reason for it.</p><p> Also I think pine trees are a very poor investment for a property with decent soils. Not only is there risk with pines such as beetle or storms but the return per- acre, per-year is not great at all. Timber sales can bring in big checks but that can be very deceiving. I've had tree farmers tell me that after a 30 year rotation they made less than $50 an acre per year. That was also confirmed in a study by the longleaf alliance. We can rent land to row croppers for more than that. </p><p> I'm not saying not to grow any pine trees. We have sites that are not suitable at all for crops nor very desirable for cattle. Trees work well there. On our own land we have more acreage in timber production than cattle but I am trying to turn that around some.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deepsouth, post: 1126589, member: 17608"] If pines were not native to the area I would be very reluctant to try to grow them there. I live in longleaf country and years ago the longleaf was cut out hard and lobblolly was planted because it would grow faster than longleaf. However the lobblolly never made as good of quality tree as the native longleaf. Now we are going back with the longleaf. I believe whatever was native to a site is the best tree to plant. We have lower wetter sites with heavier soils that are more suitable to lobblolly but the sandy ridges are much more suitable to longleaf. Nature is smarter than we are and if pine was not native then there's a good reason for it. Also I think pine trees are a very poor investment for a property with decent soils. Not only is there risk with pines such as beetle or storms but the return per- acre, per-year is not great at all. Timber sales can bring in big checks but that can be very deceiving. I've had tree farmers tell me that after a 30 year rotation they made less than $50 an acre per year. That was also confirmed in a study by the longleaf alliance. We can rent land to row croppers for more than that. I'm not saying not to grow any pine trees. We have sites that are not suitable at all for crops nor very desirable for cattle. Trees work well there. On our own land we have more acreage in timber production than cattle but I am trying to turn that around some. [/QUOTE]
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